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SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"S!!!!

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George LA Bush
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-11-17 16:08:43 UTC
Hello

I have this fixation to strange fits and i was flying my battleship and got ganked by some random frigates. This made me hella mad, so i schemed a plan to revenge.

Now before i make my self total fool to these frigate pilots, i thought i would ask advice with an alt from the forums, to see if my plan was golden. I don't mind loseing ships, but i would like to get validation from others before i continue.

THE PLAN:

Name: SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"#¤S!!!!

Plan of action:

SHIP: Rokh
Fitting:

Lows: 5 x Warp core Stabilizers -> for gtfo and luls!
Meds: 3 x Sensor Booster II, 3 x Target painter II -> For faster trageting & better hitting.
Highs: 8 x 200mm AutoCannon II (Frigate size weapons) -> For utter destruction of these fools
Rigs: 3 x Large Projectile Ambit Extension II -> 14km fall of for weapons.
Light drones

Action: When they attack and i have locked them -> local chat: "SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"¤S!".

Now the only purpose of this ship is to kill 3 frigates that would be attacking me, there is no tank and i would fight aligned to somewhere, with Stabs i might get out alive. If i die horrible it does not matter, atleast i tried.

Now the questions to you people is, is there any better battleship or fit to do this and get the luls of my life time? Do not consider costs, just effectiveness of the fit, i have enough money to take any basic BS.

Thanks for any input & no i'm not trolling but seriously doing this, well not really seriously but just for the luls.

Thank you for reading!





Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#2 - 2012-11-17 16:26:40 UTC
Are you that guy who lost his Maelstrom to our rifters in Oddelulf yesterday? :)

Anyway, first the best would be to avoid letting frigs close to your BS. So either GTFO when you see them on d-scan or take them our when they burn towards you.

Second thing - heavy neuts equal insta cap out for frig leaving it without tackle, prop and weapon in case of non-projectile guns.

Third - drones, regular anti-frig weapon system for bigger hulls.

Last but not least - get a pack of frinds, play bait with your BS (fitted with neuts/webs/points) and make a TARP.

Your fit? Stabs cut your targeting range and sig resolution by approx 50%. Enough said.

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George LA Bush
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-11-17 16:29:37 UTC  |  Edited by: George LA Bush
Schmata Bastanold wrote:

Your fit? Stabs cut your targeting range and sig resolution by approx 50%. Enough said.


Ah good point, maybe i fit tank after all then. Maybe 4 heavy neuts and rest weapons. This way i can just warp away in any case. Would this work, or would you change something? Also wanna do this by my self and no friends, more lul factor.

EDIT: Maybe i should also put stasis webifiers and 2 x point
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2012-11-17 16:43:37 UTC
For lulz you can try smartbombs, I'm pretty sure there are fits for this on those forums. Try searching for anti frig fits, probably all working configs are already posted somewhere.

Keep in mind that even if initial aggro may be from frigs they can and probably will call for more dps. And when they do you will most probably DIAF if you won't be able shut down tackle fast enough.

But hey, it's a sandbox - don't let anybody tell how to kick sand in other people faces :)

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Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-11-17 17:22:18 UTC
In the other hand, if you really want to surprise them, you should maybe not post your idea here Blink
George LA Bush
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-11-17 17:38:11 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
In the other hand, if you really want to surprise them, you should maybe not post your idea here Blink


I really cannot see how could they find out that i'm Mordrid Norad, because i'm mosting with my alt.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-11-17 18:00:39 UTC
SUPPLIES!!!!

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-11-17 18:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
George LA Bush wrote:
Hello

I have this fixation to strange fits and i was flying my battleship and got ganked by some random frigates. This made me hella mad, so i schemed a plan to revenge.

Now before i make my self total fool to these frigate pilots, i thought i would ask advice with an alt from the forums, to see if my plan was golden. I don't mind loseing ships, but i would like to get validation from others before i continue.

THE PLAN:

Name: SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"#¤S!!!!

Plan of action:

SHIP: Rokh
Fitting:

Lows: 5 x Warp core Stabilizers -> for gtfo and luls!
Meds: 3 x Sensor Booster II, 3 x Target painter II -> For faster trageting & better hitting.
Highs: 8 x 200mm AutoCannon II (Frigate size weapons) -> For utter destruction of these fools
Rigs: 3 x Large Projectile Ambit Extension II -> 14km fall of for weapons.
Light drones

Action: When they attack and i have locked them -> local chat: "SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"¤S!".

Now the only purpose of this ship is to kill 3 frigates that would be attacking me, there is no tank and i would fight aligned to somewhere, with Stabs i might get out alive. If i die horrible it does not matter, atleast i tried.

Now the questions to you people is, is there any better battleship or fit to do this and get the luls of my life time? Do not consider costs, just effectiveness of the fit, i have enough money to take any basic BS.

Thanks for any input & no i'm not trolling but seriously doing this, well not really seriously but just for the luls.

Thank you for reading!





HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How about you unsub and stop playing.

I won't even start my list about your plan is just plain stupid.

okay maybe a small recap.

* stabs = HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good luck with your locking range.
* No point = hahahaha they just warp off and go Surprise Mother****** in local back and just troll you till you whine again.

But most of all:

The most fun, how all the others fell for this obvious troll.

Thus reported.

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George LA Bush
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-17 18:42:18 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
George LA Bush wrote:
Hello

I have this fixation to strange fits and i was flying my battleship and got ganked by some random frigates. This made me hella mad, so i schemed a plan to revenge.

Now before i make my self total fool to these frigate pilots, i thought i would ask advice with an alt from the forums, to see if my plan was golden. I don't mind loseing ships, but i would like to get validation from others before i continue.

THE PLAN:

Name: SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"#¤S!!!!

Plan of action:

SHIP: Rokh
Fitting:

Lows: 5 x Warp core Stabilizers -> for gtfo and luls!
Meds: 3 x Sensor Booster II, 3 x Target painter II -> For faster trageting & better hitting.
Highs: 8 x 200mm AutoCannon II (Frigate size weapons) -> For utter destruction of these fools
Rigs: 3 x Large Projectile Ambit Extension II -> 14km fall of for weapons.
Light drones

Action: When they attack and i have locked them -> local chat: "SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"¤S!".

Now the only purpose of this ship is to kill 3 frigates that would be attacking me, there is no tank and i would fight aligned to somewhere, with Stabs i might get out alive. If i die horrible it does not matter, atleast i tried.

Now the questions to you people is, is there any better battleship or fit to do this and get the luls of my life time? Do not consider costs, just effectiveness of the fit, i have enough money to take any basic BS.

Thanks for any input & no i'm not trolling but seriously doing this, well not really seriously but just for the luls.

Thank you for reading!





HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How about you unsub and stop playing.

I won't even start my list about your plan is just plain stupid.

okay maybe a small recap.

* stabs = HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good luck with your locking range.
* No point = hahahaha they just warp off and go Surprise Mother****** in local back and just troll you till you whine again.

But most of all:

The most fun, how all the others fell for this obvious troll.

Thus reported.


Paranoid much?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#10 - 2012-11-17 19:30:27 UTC
George LA Bush wrote:
Tao Dolcino wrote:
In the other hand, if you really want to surprise them, you should maybe not post your idea here Blink


I really cannot see how could they find out that i'm Mordrid Norad, because i'm mosting with my alt.


Here's where you accidentally'd yourself

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#11 - 2012-11-17 19:43:56 UTC
Don't listen to that douche, you're halfway there. A smartbombing rokh with 1 sensor booster, some tank, webs, cap booster whatever else, no warp stabs, sit 150 off the gate with your se-boo running, they'll think you're tryin' to snipe, burn out and orbit you up close, wait a sec for their orbit to stabilize and hit em with all 8 smartbombs. THAT is surprise motherf#%*#ers. ;) good luck

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#12 - 2012-11-17 19:50:43 UTC
Without a point everyone will just warp off. Webs and tracking computers are much better to catch frigates with. But in the end you'll likely still die and the fact you have warp core stabs on your BS with undersized guns will just be hilarious.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#13 - 2012-11-17 20:07:06 UTC
OP... your plan is half baked (at best)... that said, you have balls and I will give you points for that.

My lol-solution would be to arm your ship with medium blasters and one large railgun (bear with me on this)... fit an armor tank (1600 plate, 2 EANMs, Damage Control)... and then fit a MWD (MicroWarpdrive) and warp scramblers and webs in the mids.

Come in at range... lock up the guys... and start firing your 1 large railgun ONLY... when they start burning towards you, fumble and look newbish. Once they are sub 10km from you, apply a warp scrambler and 2 webs per target. Unleash hell with the blasters.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-11-17 20:28:31 UTC
Problem is your waisting your lows for the ability to run away, and then waisting you mids with items to counteract the bad choice in lows. you've just used up 8 slots to be able to run away from a fight ( btw if its 3 frigates using scrams they will have enough warp strength to still hold you there), instead you should use these 8 slots on items to help you win the fight rather then just run.

Also using a rohk for this is overkill use something cheaper like a ferox if you don't need the power grid for large guns then why risk a 200 mil isk ship hull when the enemy is only risking 10 -20 mil in ships. Seriously rethink your strategy or your likely going to be the source of amusement for your opponent.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#15 - 2012-11-17 20:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
-Even if you scripted every one of those sensor boosters for scan res, it would take you 27 seconds to lock the frigates.

-If all three of them had warp scramblers, they would still tackle you, which is very likely, as each scram is 2 pts of warp disruption.

-You are paying out the ass for a battleship hull and t2 large rigs which will do less than half the damage of a thrasher. Pyfa estimates your ship at 300 mil.

-Your drones are going to do virtually nothing since they will be shot down seconds after launching

-You don't have a scram, so they'll just warp off if they have to.

-Even if you did have a scram, they could simply move out of range and warp out because you're slow

-If you happen to run into any group that isn't those exact same three frigate pilots in those exact same three ships, they will kill you.

-It's highly probable that even the original group of three frigates that you faced would kill you.


To summarize:

-Even if your ship is capable of beating them, they'll just leave.
-You'll probably die before you even find them again.
-If they are in t1 frigates and are good pilots, they stand a very good chance of killing you.
-If they are in faction or t2 frigates, they will just murder you.



Creating a bait ship that can kill multiple opponents is really goddamn hard. The only two realistic options I can think of are an AML caracal or a small weapon buffer tanked Maller with multiple webs and a scram, or maybe a Drake. However, AML caracals are far more common than any other kind, Mallers are useless aside from being bait, and a Drake will only be engaged by a couple frigates if they think you're incompetent... So, you could go this route, but you'd be banking on them thinking you are incompetent or, in the case of the Caracal, fit with HMLs.

It's really hard to pin down and kill frigate hulls. If they know they can kill you they can pin you down easily, if they aren't sure they can often just leave if you start winning, and if they don't think they can win you will never catch them.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#16 - 2012-11-18 02:36:50 UTC
Me sighs.

If you want a BB that can **** frigates relatively easily......

Get a Domi.

You could go either neut Domi or smarty Domi, both are pretty nasty. I prefer the neut Domi, as the neuts have more range than the smarties. As has been noted, a heavy neut will pretty much shut down most t1 frigs. Smartbombs require care in use, of course, but also have the chance of blowing away the first frigate that tries to get close to you.

Load up on t2 light drones. Whatever flavor you desire, but gallente drones have the best dps.

Domi's also tend to be one of the cheaper BB's.

You will need points/scrams if you want to keep them from warping off.

Webs can't hurt either.
For the lows, forget stabs, go with plates, resists, and maybe a repper or two.

Rigs should be set up for drones and neuts/smarty, depending on your style. And maybe a cap rig, you will probably need it.

Solo vs 3 frigs you are still probably gonna die, if you are really serious get your corpies and set up a bear trap.

Nothing beats having some friends in destroyers (Catalyst/Thrasher preferred) show up while the frigates are giggling at you....

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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George LA Bush
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-18 05:01:13 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Don't listen to that douche, you're halfway there. A smartbombing rokh with 1 sensor booster, some tank, webs, cap booster whatever else, no warp stabs, sit 150 off the gate with your se-boo running, they'll think you're tryin' to snipe, burn out and orbit you up close, wait a sec for their orbit to stabilize and hit em with all 8 smartbombs. THAT is surprise motherf#%*#ers. ;) good luck


Thanks, i think this is a solid plan.
OT Smithers
A Farewell To Kings...
Dock Workers
#18 - 2012-11-18 06:34:56 UTC
Try this:

[Drake, test]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Damage Control II

Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

5 Warrior IIs

On paper it won't do a lot of DPS. It doesn't need to. Make sure you monitor your drones closely. Every time you see them target one, recall it into your bay and relaunch it. Odds are good that you wont kill all three. Depending upon how they are fit and what kind of frigates they are using, it is even possible that you might die. But that's probably not going to happen.

That said, rather than hoping that your next battle goes down like your last, it's probably better to view your previous loss as a learning experience and move on from there.

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#19 - 2012-11-18 07:01:03 UTC
They will eat the first smartbomb barrage, realize you're fit exclusively with smartbombs (if they don't know already from not seeing the turrets on your ship) and just orbit you at 9km and kill you.

that's a bad plan too.
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-18 07:11:22 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
George LA Bush wrote:
Hello

I have this fixation to strange fits and i was flying my battleship and got ganked by some random frigates. This made me hella mad, so i schemed a plan to revenge.

Now before i make my self total fool to these frigate pilots, i thought i would ask advice with an alt from the forums, to see if my plan was golden. I don't mind loseing ships, but i would like to get validation from others before i continue.

THE PLAN:

Name: SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"#¤S!!!!

Plan of action:

SHIP: Rokh
Fitting:

Lows: 5 x Warp core Stabilizers -> for gtfo and luls!
Meds: 3 x Sensor Booster II, 3 x Target painter II -> For faster trageting & better hitting.
Highs: 8 x 200mm AutoCannon II (Frigate size weapons) -> For utter destruction of these fools
Rigs: 3 x Large Projectile Ambit Extension II -> 14km fall of for weapons.
Light drones

Action: When they attack and i have locked them -> local chat: "SUPRISE MOTHER"#¤"¤S!".

Now the only purpose of this ship is to kill 3 frigates that would be attacking me, there is no tank and i would fight aligned to somewhere, with Stabs i might get out alive. If i die horrible it does not matter, atleast i tried.

Now the questions to you people is, is there any better battleship or fit to do this and get the luls of my life time? Do not consider costs, just effectiveness of the fit, i have enough money to take any basic BS.

Thanks for any input & no i'm not trolling but seriously doing this, well not really seriously but just for the luls.

Thank you for reading!





HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How about you unsub and stop playing.

I won't even start my list about your plan is just plain stupid.

okay maybe a small recap.

* stabs = HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good luck with your locking range.
* No point = hahahaha they just warp off and go Surprise Mother****** in local back and just troll you till you whine again.

But most of all:

The most fun, how all the others fell for this obvious troll.

Thus reported.



Sooooo....you report the thread because you want it to go away, but post in it, thus making it more relevant?

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