EVE General Discussion

For starters I'm gonna go with targets.

The spike will drive prices based on demand until it becomes desirable to set up reliable low-sec ops.

No problem there. In fact, it gives miners something to aspire to beyond botdom.

Look at you, whining on the forums about people you haven't even met yet.

Not all miners work alone tho. Some of the more stronger indy corps out their would field pvp pilots to fight you and if the indy corps make alot of isk from low sec, then they could hire mercs to kick your ass.

Lowering the amount of the lower minerals in low and nullsec is a terrible terrible idea. This is effectively what you would be asking for. Nullsec is already a crap place to be an industrial player, and they need more of trit, pyr, etc. As it is nullsec alliances building cap ships import most of their low end minerals from highsec anyway, because mining them in null is slower and more difficult than in highsec. Take this from someone who was in a corp that made cap ships in null for some years.



I disagree for a whole host of reasons. From a developer perspective, nerffing high-sec income so obviously will make everyone kick off, and if you boost the lowsec ore mineral amounts it will lower the highsec miner's income anyway because of increased supply. So why bother decreasing the supply in highsec when you can just do it the other way around? As for the haulers... people moving freighters full of minerals about make enough ISK as it is. Besides, it wont increase supply that much because only the smart and capable miners will move out of high to take advantage of it. The vast majority of miners will stick to the safety of highsec anyway.

We already know that 90% of minerals are taken from highsec, and lets imagine for argument sake that the other 10% is split between low and null (In all likelihood its more like 9% from null and 1% from low, but nevermind). If that 5% suddenly has it's ore mineral content increased by 20% as suggested, then it make the mineral amount coming out of low 6% and the rest of the 100% will shift to accommodate.

You really think that 1% will change the market much? I doubt it. My maths is terrible and I've explained it pretty poorly, but you get the idea. Also, more miners in low will mean more ship losses, which means a greater demand on minerals aswell... so that might even counterbalance the change completely. Your not looking broadly enough at the implications. This is basic economic theory? You know they say a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

TLDR: The OP's idea is fantastic. I see it from time to time and I whole-heartedly support it.

except if people are losing ships, they won't mine there as the cost of replacing ships will outweigh the profits of higher yield ores.

agreed

would they though?

SOME industrialist would make the move and they would probable get into pvp as a result. These are the people we need in low sec. Let all the afk miners stay in high sec mining veldspar if that's what they want to do.

If the problem with 0.0 is the lack of trit, than the problem lies with isk and coordination. Not with how often it spawns in 0.0, isk is an object in eve. An object that people make quite readily in 0.0. But 0.0 is also a war zone, and the first thing you want to do when fighting an army is to attack their supply lines.

All in all my point is this. Industry in EVE has been about the same in trade, spawns, and mechanics, for a long time. Enough time that it has balanced itself out in a unique way. Even if you change the locations of the spawns. You would just be upsetting a different aspect of the game.

"But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act."

That you didn't read what i said...

I said make it so the only ore you can mine in high sec is veldspar (unless you find a grav site) and the other ores would become a lot more lucrative. When the ore prices increase to the point where mining in low sec is worth the risk, people will come and the strongest will survive.