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Twinkies are DYING for realzz !!

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-11-16 21:19:26 UTC
Tinja Soikutsu wrote:
yes, how DARE workers get angry about pay cuts as the price of living goes up and up and up...


Haha, now they got no pay Lol

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-11-16 21:28:33 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Tinja Soikutsu wrote:
yes, how DARE workers get angry about pay cuts as the price of living goes up and up and up...


Haha, now they got no pay Lol

Yeah but it isn't because the market wasn't there, so it won't be for long term. People won't stop eating crap just because one manufacturer hits the dust. Most of the demand will propably just move to other products or same/similar product made by another company, that in turn will need more workers to meet the increased demand.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-11-16 21:32:25 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Tinja Soikutsu wrote:
yes, how DARE workers get angry about pay cuts as the price of living goes up and up and up...


Haha, now they got no pay Lol

Yeah but it isn't because the market wasn't there, so it won't be for long term. People won't stop eating crap just because one manufacturer hits the dust. Most of the demand will propably just move to other products or same/similar product made by another company, that in turn will need more workers to meet the increased demand.


Obviously you don't know how businesses operate... hiring more people means they have to pay out more monies when they can just work their current employees to death for a fraction of the price! Big smile

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#24 - 2012-11-16 21:38:43 UTC
Removed an off topic post. Please keep it civil, thank you.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-11-16 21:41:44 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Removed an off topic post. Please keep it civil, thank you.


I can haz page 2 snipe now? I missed it with my first post that was here so I couldn't declare it but now due to outside influences I can Cool

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#26 - 2012-11-16 22:03:41 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Obviously you don't know how businesses operate... hiring more people means they have to pay out more monies when they can just work their current employees to death for a fraction of the price! Big smile

qft and they too will probably take pay and benefit cuts along with layoffs while drawing on outsourcing from 3rd world nations that pay children 82 cents on 16 hour days.

I'm in it for the money

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#27 - 2012-11-17 01:03:27 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Yeah... ding dongs, too Cry I loved those when I was a kid and still eat them once in a while. Here's the thing, I could eat one or two and feel satisfied, no need for more junk food. I wasn't a fat kid, and being decades ago there were just very few fat kids. You can say whatever you want about some silly idea that parents know better now or whatever, but kids now are FAT!! And it's not from twinkies or ding dongs, it's all this new junk that just makes you want to eat more and more, never satisfied.


Even my divorced roommates child is way obese for his 11 years. It is indeed a problem that is whacking us over the head with expense.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#28 - 2012-11-17 01:04:41 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Tinja Soikutsu wrote:
yes, how DARE workers get angry about pay cuts as the price of living goes up and up and up...


Haha, now they got no pay Lol

Yeah but it isn't because the market wasn't there, so it won't be for long term. People won't stop eating crap just because one manufacturer hits the dust. Most of the demand will propably just move to other products or same/similar product made by another company, that in turn will need more workers to meet the increased demand.


Taco Bell Dorito Tacos

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#29 - 2012-11-17 01:11:40 UTC
There is a upside to this tragedy...




...Sno Balls will be gone :)

ISD Cyberdyne

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2012-11-17 01:21:50 UTC
ISD Cyberdyne wrote:
There is a upside to this tragedy...




...Sno Balls will be gone :)



I love David Lynch's "The Straight Story" in it's openig scene with the obese woman scarfing down a platter-full of pink Sno Balls.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#31 - 2012-11-17 03:02:02 UTC
I might have eaten 1 of those. Good riddance.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#32 - 2012-11-17 04:33:04 UTC
Update: it is dying indeed.

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Hostess-to-close-lay-off-145-in-Oakland-4045280.php

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#33 - 2012-11-17 04:39:07 UTC
Webvan wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Thanks unions Ugh

Only an amateur would blame the unions. The real culprit here is Equal Access to Education, as in Mothers (aka Women) not letting their kids eat twinkies anymore, thus reducing Twinkie's marketshare.

Once again, educating women is shown to be anti-capitalistic and thus un-American. Damn those liberal intellectual elitists!



Think again. It's the same thing happening at many businesses in the US, an extremely anti-business climate by this administration in favor of government jobs over private sector jobs. In the REAL world, employers sometimes decrease pay and/or benefits during hard times, it saves jobs. But unions have never understood this, demanding entitlement they think they deserve, which goes against any form of basic business accounting.

With what's coming, with what even the markets are showing as they do this slow-crash/hard-adjustment since the results of this fraudulent election, they are probably better off de-investing and taking their losses now rather than later. They can downscale, which is nothing new to business, or be forced by the unions to go out of business. Looks like the employees would rather just take unemployment benefits from the government, so much easier than working.



Boo, and I wish there were an unlike button. A Fantasy Reality. You have absolutely no idea what it is like to be poor.

That should happen to you for an uncontrollable reason, and then we will see how your posts read.

Are you even human ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-11-17 06:14:59 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Webvan wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Thanks unions Ugh

Only an amateur would blame the unions. The real culprit here is Equal Access to Education, as in Mothers (aka Women) not letting their kids eat twinkies anymore, thus reducing Twinkie's marketshare.

Once again, educating women is shown to be anti-capitalistic and thus un-American. Damn those liberal intellectual elitists!



Think again. It's the same thing happening at many businesses in the US, an extremely anti-business climate by this administration in favor of government jobs over private sector jobs. In the REAL world, employers sometimes decrease pay and/or benefits during hard times, it saves jobs. But unions have never understood this, demanding entitlement they think they deserve, which goes against any form of basic business accounting.

With what's coming, with what even the markets are showing as they do this slow-crash/hard-adjustment since the results of this fraudulent election, they are probably better off de-investing and taking their losses now rather than later. They can downscale, which is nothing new to business, or be forced by the unions to go out of business. Looks like the employees would rather just take unemployment benefits from the government, so much easier than working.



Boo, and I wish there were an unlike button. A Fantasy Reality. You have absolutely no idea what it is like to be poor.

That should happen to you for an uncontrollable reason, and then we will see how your posts read.

Are you even human ?


When my mother and I moved to Canada from South Africa we had nothing but the clothes in our luggage. 18 years later and I own $1m in real estate due to old fashioned hard work (also 6 years in the Marines so government benefits that say I don't have to make a down payment on any property I want to buy) and a sense of direction. Screw you lazy hippies, I didn't have childhood (aluminum sided tiny house) and now I'm deciding which Aston Martin I want Cool

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Tinja Soikutsu
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-11-17 07:11:22 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
When my mother and I moved to Canada from South Africa we had nothing but the clothes in our luggage. 18 years later and I own $1m in real estate due to old fashioned hard work (also 6 years in the Marines so government benefits that say I don't have to make a down payment on any property I want to buy) and a sense of direction. Screw you lazy hippies, I didn't have childhood (aluminum sided tiny house) and now I'm deciding which Aston Martin I want Cool

tl;dr *looks in mirror* fapfapfapfap

You can work as hard as you like, but if the corporates decide to bend you over the barrel for a thorough ****ing, there's nothing you can do about it in our society and you're pretty much ****ed for the rest of your life.
Raymond Le Roux
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-11-17 07:42:18 UTC
Webvan wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Thanks unions Ugh

Only an amateur would blame the unions. The real culprit here is Equal Access to Education, as in Mothers (aka Women) not letting their kids eat twinkies anymore, thus reducing Twinkie's marketshare.

Once again, educating women is shown to be anti-capitalistic and thus un-American. Damn those liberal intellectual elitists!



Think again. It's the same thing happening at many businesses in the US, an extremely anti-business climate by this administration in favor of government jobs over private sector jobs. In the REAL world, employers sometimes decrease pay and/or benefits during hard times, it saves jobs. But unions have never understood this, demanding entitlement they think they deserve, which goes against any form of basic business accounting.

With what's coming, with what even the markets are showing as they do this slow-crash/hard-adjustment since the results of this fraudulent election, they are probably better off de-investing and taking their losses now rather than later. They can downscale, which is nothing new to business, or be forced by the unions to go out of business. Looks like the employees would rather just take unemployment benefits from the government, so much easier than working.


Bitter much?
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#37 - 2012-11-17 12:29:21 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:



Boo, and I wish there were an unlike button. A Fantasy Reality. You have absolutely no idea what it is like to be poor.

That should happen to you for an uncontrollable reason, and then we will see how your posts read.

Are you even human ?
Ah class warfare, eh? Way to post!
Actually, I've not only run a service business, but worked for a business for about a decade. I started out at minimum wage, and that was way below this $7-$8/hr bs now. In the time that I was there, not only did I manage to pull the highest raises due to work performance (I worked hard), but I worked my way into positional promotions, winding up being the top paid hourly wage employee at a company of over 1000 employees.

The company went through hard times, laid off some people, wages decreased, benefits cut (that's where I took the hit, was fine with me, I understood), and we all got our 401k's wiped out.

If I were working a government job, nothing would have changed. Here in the US, they even had post office workers literally assigned to empty back rooms doing absolutely nothing every day, required to do nothing, because they weren't allowed to take cuts or be laid off.

Part of this hostess thing, delivery trucks cant transport both wonder bread and twinkies in the same vehicle, this due to agreements with the unions. Meanwhile union workers complain the cuts are almost "like" working minimum wage, so now they can eat their pride I guess.

Now, am I human? way to troll!
Some say I'm part of an advance android invasion party from the planet X

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#38 - 2012-11-17 13:30:04 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:



Boo, and I wish there were an unlike button. A Fantasy Reality. You have absolutely no idea what it is like to be poor.

That should happen to you for an uncontrollable reason, and then we will see how your posts read.

Are you even human ?
Ah class warfare, eh? Way to post!
Actually, I've not only run a service business, but worked for a business for about a decade. I started out at minimum wage, and that was way below this $7-$8/hr bs now. In the time that I was there, not only did I manage to pull the highest raises due to work performance (I worked hard), but I worked my way into positional promotions, winding up being the top paid hourly wage employee at a company of over 1000 employees.

The company went through hard times, laid off some people, wages decreased, benefits cut (that's where I took the hit, was fine with me, I understood), and we all got our 401k's wiped out.

If I were working a government job, nothing would have changed. Here in the US, they even had post office workers literally assigned to empty back rooms doing absolutely nothing every day, required to do nothing, because they weren't allowed to take cuts or be laid off.

Part of this hostess thing, delivery trucks cant transport both wonder bread and twinkies in the same vehicle, this due to agreements with the unions. Meanwhile union workers complain the cuts are almost "like" working minimum wage, so now they can eat their pride I guess.

Now, am I human? way to troll!
Some say I'm part of an advance android invasion party from the planet X


The point is that everyone's life is absolutely different, and under a plethora of circumstances.

Your experience is not necessarily universal nor does it imply that by any means.

Neither is anyone's.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
stoicfaux
#39 - 2012-11-17 14:01:49 UTC
I had a summer job programming at a TV manufacturing plan and you weren't allowed to pick any trash off of the plant floor due to union rules (i.e. picking up trash was a union job and only that union person could pick up any trash.)

OTOH, we can look at history and see that employers will willfully and gleefully exploit workers into virtual slavery, if not outright slavery. And it still happens today despite unions and legal protections. I, for one, am going to laugh my butt off when Chinese workers finally manage to unionize.

As always, there are plenty of examples of abuse on both sides, especially when money (profits or union dues,) power and people's innate resistance to change are involved.

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Gecko Corp
#40 - 2012-11-17 15:24:06 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Tinja Soikutsu wrote:
yes, how DARE workers get angry about pay cuts as the price of living goes up and up and up...


Won't someone think of the poor shareholders?


Yep those poor shareholders who's shares are worth nothing now....like the people now without jobs because their unions did something stupid...like striking when the company is failing.

I had one of those things once (Twinkies) I can't understand how you americans can eat such shite