Jita Park Speakers Corner

Its like people already forgot that the CSM just made CCP do a 180 in regards to their plans and possibly saved EVE in the long run.

This just in. Vile Rat has been hired as the new Community Manager by CCP.

Wow dude...didn't take long for you to realize your arguments were doomed and resort to 'yo mama' jokes.

Couple of points.

CSM is almost certainly a tax-write off business expense to CCP. This needs taking into account. Anyone who runs their own business will appreciate that there is very little difference between the cost of taking a client out to lunch to discuss a contract and simply paying over the cash to the tax man.

That said.

I do agree the current CSM has some unprofessional members who have done a fairly poor job.
(of course it also has decent members who have done a decent job) Any elected council is always a mix of good and bad.

Sure its annoying that it seems to have devolved into a Nullsec bloc-vote thing in the main but the solution to that is for more players to vote not less.

I also have issues with the way the current CSM let CCP off the hook on the "vanity items" category for NeX and thats something I'd definitely like to see re-addressed (and properly this time) in the future.

But then again the CSM DID help in publicising the player protests against Incarna mandatory CQ and helped get our message out to the gaming media.

Plus and minus, it really isn't as a black and white as some in this thread suggest.

There is a valid discussion to be had on whether the CSM project as a whole has helped or hindered CCP/community relations in the long term I guess. But currently I think there is a fairly abusive cycle of angry people looking to scapegoat (well anything) and some members of the CSM thinking "well screw you!" (and counter trolling).

Its all hogwash though.

The blame for this current situation falls pure and clearly on CCP Senior Management who have mismanaged the Eve Online game for several years now. The current situation is not the fault of CSM/rank and file CCP devs/angry players or even Icelandic volcano gods.

I still believe in the CSM project and I think it is a good thing for Eve Online and the community. The fact that people got elected you may not like (or respect) should just be a challenge to get better people elected next time.

And you've shown by your posts you don't know what you're talking about and liked getting mocked on an internet forum.

Gotta pitch 'em to the level of the audience, and you sure swung for it.

CSM is a joke, nothing more than a PR disaster for CCP and a way for people with absolutely no social skills or real life to inflate their e-peens and leak NDA material. The maturity level of the people that get on the CSM every year is about the same as 12 year olds.

If CCP was smart they would restructure the whole thing and run their PR like every other company in the industry. Marginalize the CSM even more than it is now, and for god's sake stop spending money on them or disclosing information to them you don't want public. They have done nothing to help deal with the idiots that scream on the forums, actually this last CSM has done nothing other than insult the players and try to start even more **** for CCP to have to clean up, AND they can't seem to keep their mouths shut about NDA material either.

There are much more successful ways to interact with your subscribers and has been proven out by most of the industry at this point. This laughable excuse of representation is nothing more than a bunch of children playing dress up and stroking their e-peens.

I blame Harm Pit for CCP's woes. I blame Harm Pit for getting those CCP employees fired. If he had been a more active player or had gone to any of the Fanfest and actually shown CCP how to make a better game, we, as the player base wouldn't be in this position today. I blame Harm Pit for making super caps overpowered, and for dragging Faction Warfare down the toilet. I also blame him for not stopping the Goons from attacking us hisec miners. I also blame Harm Pit for me not getting any kills in over a year.

I blame him for everything that is wrong in this world today. Since he started playing EVE Online, the world economy has gone to hell. Famine is rife in Africa again. War is rampant within the Middle East. Children all across the globe are going hungry because he refuses to become a farmer. Harm Pit caused that tsunami in Japan, and the subsiquent nuclear reactor meltdowns, I know he did it, I just know, mkay.

CCP's current situation is CCP's fault, not the CSMs. CCP has openly admitted to their mistakes. Going too far too fast. Classic mistake all new companys make. You blame six people. Really? SIX! Are you daft? If anything, the current CSM has finally gotten CCP to see what is happening. Walking in station? Who gives a **** about that? Oooh, look I can sit on a couch. I can walk to my ship now. Big whoopty doo. I can buy a monocle and some fancy boots. Are you being for real?

Do you know why no one is in nullsec? Cuz the sov mechanics are out of whack. Kind of hard to start a new alliance and take space when the current alliances have something in the neighborhood of 250+ supercarriers and titans. Or should we just leave them as they are?

No my friend, I blame you for all of lifes misfortunes. I blame you for everything that is wrong in the world today. I blame you for not being a shining example of how we as humans need to be. I especially blame you for the colors toape and mauve and why little puppies die at birth. I blame you for the homeless people living in my city. I also want to blame you for the drought that is going on here. I blame you for crop failures around the world and why tires go flat at the most incovienent times.

You may start your name calling now.

Shall we create a list of which of those items you can legitimately take credit for?

It won't take long.