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Goons - two years on the tech moons - how you guys feel about that, question about game future

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#241 - 2012-11-16 19:37:35 UTC
Itis Zhellin wrote:
I'm a new player and I had tyo say that I kinda hate these goons. Exactly because I'm new. Otherwise I think Im a goon by myself. I had read about their history and I just loved it. They were the rebel kids whom to fuk off with the big elitisjerks. And I love every word of Rebel.

But in EVE, goons means the fukin bad guys. Miners are bad. No ****. How about our miner who are the real zombies? Just visit teir indy 5 systems and you will see some real zombie miing. Difference is trhat you cannot fuuk them cuz theirt muscle. Just open map and see the indy 5 in ghoon space.

I would gather a right click on ur face click band .. but .


that's funny, you're "new" yet you're familiar with 0.0 industrial indices

try not being so obvious?

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#242 - 2012-11-16 19:43:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Issler Dainze
Sarcasm begins here ---> You're all just a bunch of whiners.... Shocked

So I don't see the problem here, all you have to do is make your own alliance, recruit 30K members, find a way to fund it, spend years to learn how to fight, build a huge fleet of warships and then take all the moons yourself!! It only took the goons about 6 years to get where they are now, assuming they stop growing and sit around waiting for you soon you can win Eve.

I anxiously await my new overlords in 2018!

<--- sarcasm ends here

Not speaking for the CSM but I would have expected something to have happened by now to address isk printing machines like tech moons.

Issler
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#243 - 2012-11-16 19:45:27 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Not speaking for the CSM but I would have expected something to have happened by now to address isk printing machines like tech moons.


http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73051

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#244 - 2012-11-16 19:47:30 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
You're all just a bunch of whiners.... Shocked

So I don't see the problem here, all you have to do is make your own alliance, recruit 30K members, find a way to fund it, spend years to learn how to fight, build a huge fleet of warships and then take all the moons yourself!! It only took the goons about 6 years to get where they are now, assuming they stop growing and sit around waiting for you soon you can win Eve.

I anxiously await my new overlords in 2018!

Not speaking for the CSM but I would have expected something to have happened by now to address isk printing machines like tech moons.

Issler

Then you should probably do something about it with your CSM tag besides calling other players whiners.

Which I'm reporting, by the way. You can't call people names on these forums, Issler.

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#245 - 2012-11-16 19:47:58 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Not speaking for the CSM but I would have expected something to have happened by now to address isk printing machines like tech moons.

It's almost as if CCP haven't implemented alchemy which impacts tech prices vOv

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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#246 - 2012-11-16 19:47:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Not speaking for the CSM but I would have expected something to have happened by now to address isk printing machines like tech moons.


http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73051

OH SNAP!

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Itis Zhellin
#247 - 2012-11-16 19:51:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Itis Zhellin
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
I'm a new player and I had tyo say that I kinda hate these goons. Exactly because I'm new. Otherwise I think Im a goon by myself. I had read about their history and I just loved it. They were the rebel kids whom to fuk off with the big elitisjerks. And I love every word of Rebel.

But in EVE, goons means the fukin bad guys. Miners are bad. No ****. How about our miner who are the real zombies? Just visit teir indy 5 systems and you will see some real zombie miing. Difference is trhat you cannot fuuk them cuz theirt muscle. Just open map and see the indy 5 in ghoon space.

I would gather a right click on ur face click band .. but .

Funny that, I don't see any indi5 systems in Goonspace. IRC space they are everywhere. Are you sure you have your map setings right? Given your semiliterate rambling, I will be generous and say that you probably have your map settings wrong.

Dude, wanna go on a trip to goon indy space? Trust me. you wont believe it how many zombies lives there. Difference on hi sec space is.. muscle. Enter space.. they giVe a FUK cuz they r zombiez. But the goon muscle army will react and fuk u off.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#248 - 2012-11-16 19:52:59 UTC
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
I'm a new player and I had tyo say that I kinda hate these goons. Exactly because I'm new. Otherwise I think Im a goon by myself. I had read about their history and I just loved it. They were the rebel kids whom to fuk off with the big elitisjerks. And I love every word of Rebel.

But in EVE, goons means the fukin bad guys. Miners are bad. No ****. How about our miner who are the real zombies? Just visit teir indy 5 systems and you will see some real zombie miing. Difference is trhat you cannot fuuk them cuz theirt muscle. Just open map and see the indy 5 in ghoon space.

I would gather a right click on ur face click band .. but .

Funny that, I don't see any indi5 systems in Goonspace. IRC space they are everywhere. Are you sure you have your map setings right? Given your semiliterate rambling, I will be generous and say that you probably have your map settings wrong.

Dude, wanna go on a trip to goon indy space? Trust me. you wont believe it how many zombies lives there. Difference on hi sec space is.. muscle. Enter space.. they giVe a FUK cuz they r zombiez. But the goon muscle army will react and fuk u off.

I've been to Goon space.

No there isn't.

Pics or it didn't happen.

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Imports Plus
Doomheim
#249 - 2012-11-16 19:53:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Imports Plus
Issler Dainze wrote:
Not speaking for the CSM but I would have expected something to have happened by now to address isk printing machines like tech moons.

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73051

CCP Fozzie wrote:
So we are going to kick Technetium in the balls.


Log in much?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#250 - 2012-11-16 19:55:21 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
Issler Dainze wrote:
You're all just a bunch of whiners.... Shocked

So I don't see the problem here, all you have to do is make your own alliance, recruit 30K members, find a way to fund it, spend years to learn how to fight, build a huge fleet of warships and then take all the moons yourself!! It only took the goons about 6 years to get where they are now, assuming they stop growing and sit around waiting for you soon you can win Eve.

I anxiously await my new overlords in 2018!

Not speaking for the CSM but I would have expected something to have happened by now to address isk printing machines like tech moons.

Issler


Moon goo is not isk, it does not inject isk into the economy and its extraction/transportation costs far more than any highsec activity. As a CSM member I expect you to know these things about the game and take an educated, well reasoned stance on the subject.

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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#251 - 2012-11-16 20:00:32 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Shizuken wrote:
You could also just wholesale ban goon members that have made a point of "breaking the game"... .

Agenda spotted.


I generally dont agree with banning players outright, it seems like a lazy copout to me. I prefer to use game mechanics to deter behavior instead.

I only listed that as it is a tactic that MMO developers have use in the past in certain situations. It was a sream of consiousness idea, nothing more. I do have a dislike for certain type of gameplay, but not for individuals in particular.

Goon away, if that suits you. There is plenty of non-goon space for me.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#252 - 2012-11-16 20:02:32 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Goon away, if that suits you. There is plenty of non-goon space for me.

Don't worry, CCP loves highsec a lot as well.

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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#253 - 2012-11-16 20:08:34 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
I'm a new player and I had tyo say that I kinda hate these goons. Exactly because I'm new. Otherwise I think Im a goon by myself. I had read about their history and I just loved it. They were the rebel kids whom to fuk off with the big elitisjerks. And I love every word of Rebel.

But in EVE, goons means the fukin bad guys. Miners are bad. No ****. How about our miner who are the real zombies? Just visit teir indy 5 systems and you will see some real zombie miing. Difference is trhat you cannot fuuk them cuz theirt muscle. Just open map and see the indy 5 in ghoon space.

I would gather a right click on ur face click band .. but .

Funny that, I don't see any indi5 systems in Goonspace. IRC space they are everywhere. Are you sure you have your map setings right? Given your semiliterate rambling, I will be generous and say that you probably have your map settings wrong.

Dude, wanna go on a trip to goon indy space? Trust me. you wont believe it how many zombies lives there. Difference on hi sec space is.. muscle. Enter space.. they giVe a FUK cuz they r zombiez. But the goon muscle army will react and fuk u off.

I've been to Goon space.

No there isn't.

Pics or it didn't happen.

I too would like to see this mytical Goon Industry 5 region, because the map says IT DOESN'T EXIST.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Itis Zhellin
#254 - 2012-11-16 20:09:15 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
I'm a new player and I had tyo say that I kinda hate these goons. Exactly because I'm new. Otherwise I think Im a goon by myself. I had read about their history and I just loved it. They were the rebel kids whom to fuk off with the big elitisjerks. And I love every word of Rebel.

But in EVE, goons means the fukin bad guys. Miners are bad. No ****. How about our miner who are the real zombies? Just visit teir indy 5 systems and you will see some real zombie miing. Difference is trhat you cannot fuuk them cuz theirt muscle. Just open map and see the indy 5 in ghoon space.

I would gather a right click on ur face click band .. but .

Funny that, I don't see any indi5 systems in Goonspace. IRC space they are everywhere. Are you sure you have your map setings right? Given your semiliterate rambling, I will be generous and say that you probably have your map settings wrong.

Dude, wanna go on a trip to goon indy space? Trust me. you wont believe it how many zombies lives there. Difference on hi sec space is.. muscle. Enter space.. they giVe a FUK cuz they r zombiez. But the goon muscle army will react and fuk u off.

I've been to Goon space.

No there isn't.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Pics of their zombie miners you ask? Welll..
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#255 - 2012-11-16 20:10:59 UTC
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Pics of their zombie miners you ask? Welll..


You got bupkis.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#256 - 2012-11-16 20:19:09 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Pics of their zombie miners you ask? Welll..

You got bupkis.

It's better to just mine in highsec, no worry about having supercapitals hotdropped on your face or so on.

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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#257 - 2012-11-16 20:19:16 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Shizuken wrote:
Goon away, if that suits you. There is plenty of non-goon space for me.

Don't worry, CCP loves highsec a lot as well.


As they should. If the entire game was like null EvE would cease attracting new players and it would die as vets move on or die off. At some point even the goons will reach a ceiling on their dominance. You will have to grow your employee base the more space you capture, it is simple logistics. When the growth rates of territory and employment diverge you will either have so much empty space that squatters will start to occupy it, or everyone in null will be a goon. If the former happens you will start to lose territory. If the latter happens you open yourself up to graft and corruption. The larger the alliance wallet gets the more tempting it is for someone to steal from it.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#258 - 2012-11-16 20:22:40 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Shizuken wrote:
Goon away, if that suits you. There is plenty of non-goon space for me.

Don't worry, CCP loves highsec a lot as well.


As they should. If the entire game was like null EvE would cease attracting new players and it would die as vets move on or die off. At some point even the goons will reach a ceiling on their dominance. You will have to grow your employee base the more space you capture, it is simple logistics. When the growth rates of territory and employment diverge you will either have so much empty space that squatters will start to occupy it, or everyone in null will be a goon. If the former happens you will start to lose territory. If the latter happens you open yourself up to graft and corruption. The larger the alliance wallet gets the more tempting it is for someone to steal from it.

You pretend that Goons look to pubbies as a source to replenish their ranks.

This is almost universally untrue, making a mockery of the rest of your entire post.

Only pubbie alliances and corps would struggle to recruit "noobs" from high-sec.

Goons would go on getting the bulk of their new hires the old-fashioned way: Friends on Somethingawful.com who were interested in some good-old-fashioned spaceship fights.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#259 - 2012-11-16 20:24:14 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
As they should. If the entire game was like null EvE would cease attracting new players and it would die as vets move on or die off. At some point even the goons will reach a ceiling on their dominance. You will have to grow your employee base the more space you capture, it is simple logistics. When the growth rates of territory and employment diverge you will either have so much empty space that squatters will start to occupy it, or everyone in null will be a goon. If the former happens you will start to lose territory. If the latter happens you open yourself up to graft and corruption. The larger the alliance wallet gets the more tempting it is for someone to steal from it.


Okay since you claim to know how EVE works, what attracts new players please explain this to us all?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#260 - 2012-11-16 20:40:22 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Shizuken wrote:

As they should. If the entire game was like null EvE would cease attracting new players and it would die as vets move on or die off. At some point even the goons will reach a ceiling on their dominance. You will have to grow your employee base the more space you capture, it is simple logistics. When the growth rates of territory and employment diverge you will either have so much empty space that squatters will start to occupy it, or everyone in null will be a goon. If the former happens you will start to lose territory. If the latter happens you open yourself up to graft and corruption. The larger the alliance wallet gets the more tempting it is for someone to steal from it.

You pretend that Goons look to pubbies as a source to replenish their ranks.

This is almost universally untrue, making a mockery of the rest of your entire post.

Only pubbie alliances and corps would struggle to recruit "noobs" from high-sec.

Goons would go on getting the bulk of their new hires the old-fashioned way: Friends on Somethingawful.com who were interested in some good-old-fashioned spaceship fights.

Haha, the pubbies ~wish~ we were trying to fill up on pubbies. Sorry, you can't avoid the security deposit by trying to imagine we're hard up on newbees.

Newbees <3

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