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Goons - two years on the tech moons - how you guys feel about that, question about game future

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#181 - 2012-11-16 12:17:22 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Shepard Book wrote:

It is funny how when Russians were good at diplomacy and were invading north with more supers than goons and their pets/friends that they were nerfed in short order. Meanwhile moon go on the other hand is left unbalanced for years on end...

Devswarm is the problem...


Maybe it's racism.

Oh god.
Aldoraan Vadagh
let impossible genies honor trance - L.I.G.H.T.
#182 - 2012-11-16 12:40:32 UTC
Spurty wrote:
But guys, look at all the good they have done with their trillions guys!!

PRESSES F10 to look at all of those highly populated Null Sec systems, reaming with life and vibrancy and .. actually as dark and dead as it was before they even existed.

Yah, well done for doing *nothing* with all that space and all those blues.

Clearly intelligence at work here.

Not sure it's CCP or an alliance's fault it's still mostly dead in Null.

So few leaders, oh so many many many sheep.



+1
Aldoraan Vadagh
let impossible genies honor trance - L.I.G.H.T.
#183 - 2012-11-16 12:43:28 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


It'll happen after Greece manages grinding +8% growth a year and US vote a president who won't save fail banks.


Britan will have cloaking tanks before thatStraight


to invade Wales? Blink
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#184 - 2012-11-16 12:53:07 UTC
Aldoraan Vadagh wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


It'll happen after Greece manages grinding +8% growth a year and US vote a president who won't save fail banks.


Britan will have cloaking tanks before thatStraight


to invade Wales? Blink

Not even the welsh want that.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#185 - 2012-11-16 12:54:39 UTC
Aldoraan Vadagh wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


It'll happen after Greece manages grinding +8% growth a year and US vote a president who won't save fail banks.


Britan will have cloaking tanks before thatStraight


to invade contain Wales? Blink
Fixed. Why on Earth would anyone want to invade?!
Hemmo Paskiainen
#186 - 2012-11-16 13:05:43 UTC
I warned ccp about this atleat 5 times in with constuctive motivated posts in here past 2 years. the goon favoritism is so obvius stupid that it isnt funny anymore. As explain in previous posts, eve is a materilistic game, the one with the most isk can buy or hire everything and provide the most services to its members. Add the sociology aspect from the game ontop of this and the result is a downward butterfly effect spiral that make ppl think this game is epicly ********. No one likes to play a game when peoplethis there is cheating goingon. In this case its the ******** soo obvius game disbalancemebt thats lasting for 2 years!!! It makes people think that ether ccp is too blind to see the long term negative affects, they absolutely dont care or that one ones that take advantage are ccp gamedesigners. In the end, and that is were we currenly are is that the game is becomming akot less fun and ppl feel negected. About eve 0.0 social structure and personalities.. 0.0 is explosions. Only few ppl can make good explosions akka fleeting happen. These are mosty vets as it requirs alot of experiobs. These ppl also following politics and game development. Smart people in generak, not blind for ccp goonfavouritism. The social structure and butterfly affect makes more people qyit eve out of boredom if vets and the game drivers leave. Its arguable that some new corp or ally will come but im betting 100b isk that activity in numbers is far lower. Basicly im saying that eve is losing its hardcore players and the new genaration isnt vety likely to stick around for too long. So grats ccp you managed to kill your growt potential for the past 2yrs and you ether dont care or are as blind as a duck... oh forgot goodluck fixing a negativa image amoung a high educated target game group....

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#187 - 2012-11-16 13:06:15 UTC
Keen Fallsword wrote:
Goons have so much isk from tech moons they can afford to setup permanent hulkageddon rewards, ice interdiction, throw away thousands of tornado's in burn jita, while fighting war after war with free ship replacement for the largest blob in eve.


At least they are putting the isk to good use.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#188 - 2012-11-16 13:13:36 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Aldoraan Vadagh wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


It'll happen after Greece manages grinding +8% growth a year and US vote a president who won't save fail banks.


Britan will have cloaking tanks before thatStraight


to invade contain Wales? Blink
Fixed. Why on Earth would anyone want to invade?!


You say that, but when the Great Water Wars start, Wales will be prime territory. Gangs of woollen-clad outlaws roam the hills, in some kind of bizarre mad-max parody.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#189 - 2012-11-16 13:14:23 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
I warned ccp about this atleat 5 times in with constuctive motivated posts in here past 2 years. the goon favoritism is so obvius stupid that it isnt funny anymore. As explain in previous posts, eve is a materilistic game, the one with the most isk can buy or hire everything and provide the most services to its members. Add the sociology aspect from the game ontop of this and the result is a downward butterfly effect spiral that make ppl think this game is epicly ********. No one likes to play a game when peoplethis there is cheating goingon. In this case its the ******** soo obvius game disbalancemebt thats lasting for 2 years!!! It makes people think that ether ccp is too blind to see the long term negative affects, they absolutely dont care or that one ones that take advantage are ccp gamedesigners. In the end, and that is were we currenly are is that the game is becomming akot less fun and ppl feel negected. About eve 0.0 social structure and personalities.. 0.0 is explosions. Only few ppl can make good explosions akka fleeting happen. These are mosty vets as it requirs alot of experiobs. These ppl also following politics and game development. Smart people in generak, not blind for ccp goonfavouritism. The social structure and butterfly affect makes more people qyit eve out of boredom if vets and the game drivers leave. Its arguable that some new corp or ally will come but im betting 100b isk that activity in numbers is far lower. Basicly im saying that eve is losing its hardcore players and the new genaration isnt vety likely to stick around for too long. So grats ccp you managed to kill your growt potential for the past 2yrs and you ether dont care or are as blind as a duck... oh forgot goodluck fixing a negativa image amoung a high educated target game group....


What... is this a post?
Someone help me out here.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#190 - 2012-11-16 13:21:52 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Fixed. Why on Earth would anyone want to invade?!

You say that, but when the Great Water Wars start, Wales will be prime territory. Gangs of woollen-clad outlaws roam the hills, in some kind of bizarre mad-max parody.

So it would be as if Glastonbury had jumped over to the other side of Bristol Channel?
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2012-11-16 13:24:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Fixed. Why on Earth would anyone want to invade?!

You say that, but when the Great Water Wars start, Wales will be prime territory. Gangs of woollen-clad outlaws roam the hills, in some kind of bizarre mad-max parody.

So it would be as if Glastonbury had jumped over to the other side of Bristol Channel?


Pretty much. Forever.

On the plus side it'd give me a reason to go to Wales to watch the rain-sodden gangs clashing before suddenly breaking out a metric tonne of drugs and just getting foreverstoned.
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#192 - 2012-11-16 13:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Keen Fallsword
Nexus Day wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


It's not up to CCP to make the situation better - the Goons established themselves by taking the most advantage they could of the game mechanics ...

Taking advantage of game mechanics = smart

Taking advantage of broken game mechanics instead of immediately reporting them = exploit

Pretty sure the Goons have done a bit of both. But in the case of the tech moons, no exploit there so no intervention required.

Sorry OP, but you will have to develop a little more patience.In time these things correct themselves.



Yeah I was thinking about better moon relocation. Make their's location more equal in universe. Or maybe "moon mining" announced by CCP but marked as soon(tm). And as we all known soon(tm) is the strongest "brand" inside CCP its stronger then Carbon or everything.. :(
Nyaris Wolfe
SHUT UP SEV
#193 - 2012-11-16 13:36:26 UTC
Posting in a camoflagued Goons Broke Eve thread

I am an Alt who's main is too damn cheap to sub. http://aracimia.blogspot.co.uk/ Brony Capsuleer best Capsuleer!
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#194 - 2012-11-16 13:39:59 UTC
Nyaris Wolfe wrote:
Posting in a camoflagued Goons Broke Eve thread


It's the equivalent of putting a camouflaged cloak over an elephant in a field.

Sure there's camouflage, but you can clearly see it's still an elephant.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#195 - 2012-11-16 13:50:29 UTC
Keen Fallsword wrote:
Yeah I was thinking about better moon relocation. Make their's location more equal in universe.

Dyspro and neo is properly distributed across the universe, and yet CCP moved away from them being the bottleneck. And literally everyone told CCP technetium would be the new and very significant bottleneck, and CCP didn't listen.

And here we are.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#196 - 2012-11-16 13:52:29 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Keen Fallsword wrote:
Yeah I was thinking about better moon relocation. Make their's location more equal in universe.

Dyspro and neo is properly distributed across the universe, and yet CCP moved away from them being the bottleneck. And literally everyone told CCP technetium would be the new and very significant bottleneck, and CCP didn't listen.

And here we are.


yeah I know. But anyone asked Them Why ? Why They dont want to relocate those moons ?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#197 - 2012-11-16 13:54:30 UTC
Why relocate the moons when the problem is the consumption of the moongoo?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#198 - 2012-11-16 14:20:38 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Why relocate the moons when the problem is the consumption of the moongoo?


Exactly. Having certain materials be regional only is actually a good thing from a certain point of view - it encourages conflict over those areas where the resources exist.
On the other hand having a primary bottleneck being one of those said resources is pretty laffo.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#199 - 2012-11-16 14:37:04 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
On the other hand having a primary bottleneck being one of those said resources is pretty laffo.

:ccp:

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Prez21
D-sync
D-sync.
#200 - 2012-11-16 16:15:23 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Prez21 wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Prez21 wrote:
Most of the current 0.0 residents are clueless carebears who wouldnt last 5 minutes against a half decent pvp corp if it wasnt for jump bridges

Hint: Jumpbridges don't let anyone travel in "total safety".

Ive never said they did but they make it a hell of a lot easier, the only people who die on jump bridges or traveling between them are people who dont pay attention or are just unlucky.

...
What?
You do realize you can't place two jump bridges in the same system, right?
That means to keep going on my route, I have to go through at least one stargate to get to the next jump bridge.

Did you read my post? it clear says about people having to travel between them, but you carebears think that traveling through 1 stargate is hard and dangerous work, its sad.