EVE General Discussion

Remove moon go from moons and put it in belts to be mined IMO. Give the isk to members to be taxed by Corps who are in turn taxed by Alliances.


It is funny how when Russians were good at diplomacy and were invading north with more supers than goons and their pets/friends that they were nerfed in short order. Meanwhile moon go on the other hand is left unbalanced for years on end...

And I thought I was a bitter poster.

i emptied my eighteen personal tech moons whilst reading this thread

I once worked with 27 moons, maybe 1 neodymium, most cobalt and hafnium

**** you with a ****** plunger

What I feel?

I don't bother concerning myself over such trivial matters and JUST PLAY THE DAMN GAME.

You let us know how that goes.

As for the OPs question, I am not qualified to speak about the Goons and their possessions. However, i am qualified to agree that Lvl 4s have been turned into a joke, nerfed to the point of being halfway useless. As someone who has done them for more than a couple of years, I remember when doing Lvl 4s would net you some scratch, enough to go out and PvP with the disposable income. But these days, they just aren't as lucrative anymore, and certainly not enough to go blow up some ships like I used to. The economy is in the crapper and the answer here seems to be to flush repeatedly until, I don't know...profit? For whom?

I suppose that if CCP makes a use for metal scraps, there might be more incentive to do them, and thus make more money, and thus go out and explore and get into fights. But a smart man doesn't fly what he can't afford to lose. The ironic part is that all those who wanted more PvP and railed against PvE did themselves a disservice as well.

Sure. Rifters ARE cheap enough, no arguments there. But modding, rigging and loading them is a bit more expensive than it used to be. And what about if I have a wild urge to go lose a Cane somewhere? Well, the only missions that even come close to that are GE and AE, around 60 mil each in total completion bounties, which ranks as the highest Lvl 4 mission bounty payout that I am aware of in hisec. So while I could use that money to blow on a ship, I still have to cough up the isk for everything else, and that's another 20 to 30 million, give or take. Now while that situation certainly sounds ideal, juicy even, there arises the issue of not having either one of those missions being offered by any of my agents in the last few months. Maybe it's just me, but it still cuts into revenue nonetheless.

Add to that the fact that while the costs of ships, mods, ammo, etc. has gone up, my income has actually dropped. Don't even get me started on salvaging and looting either. I am regretting taking the time to train those skills up to max, only to make away with nearly 150 units of metal scraps, not including the loot of metal scraps. At this point, I should have just trained up to four and saved myself a little time for use on other skills. I understand that it does not guarantee the juicy salvage everytime, but taking the time to train skills up should yield better rewards, yes? Isn't that what this game is about? Cause and effect? Action and consequence?

As for the ship, I have been using the exact same ship for the past year or so, with the exact same set-up and the exact same research into how best to tackle each mission with the exact same ammo and the exact same tactics in the mission. I don't think the heavy missile nerf has even hit yet, has it? You'll have to forgive me, I failed to notice the date stated, presuming that it will drop with Retribution on the 4th.

I'm not asking for fountains of isk to shower upon my naked bosom, or for there to be no risk whatsoever. I just want to see the last nerf or two rolled back, so I can start building up some disposable income again. I don't think that I should get the same amount of isk doing the same thing that my nulsec counterparts do either, there is a distinct difference between the two sections. There's a reason they get more, and I am ok with that, I would just like to see what I used to get, that's it. I don't always want to sit here with an abacus wondering if I might be short-changing myself for the approaching month. I do enjoy PvP in Eve, I still think it has some of the best mechanics for it out of all the MMOs I have played. But as an old fart sitting behind the keyboard, just because I am willing to take risks with ships, doesn't mean I am so carefree with my finances. Actions and consequences and all that.

http://www.themontolio.com/features/eve-economics-101-baskets-bottlenecks

Sounds like CCP fixed things well. The Goons took advantage of it. But how much screaming, yelling and crusing will be done when CCP "fixes" Technetium.



With the lucrative income from Tech moons gone, how will the Goons adapt? Or will we watching another BoB implosion?

Build them an Afrigium to help them with their poorness.

Don't forget donating limitless security troops.