EVE General Discussion

I congratulate the goons on what they have achieved.

The same goes to Test.

Anybody could of of done what they have done but they didn't and know there is nothing but tears.

"Look at what my leader said! He was right! With that said, we will exploit it until it is fixed!"

I noticed how this thread looks like a corral indeed.

CCP made their stance abundantly clear. That basically being, "Changing Tech is too hard. Besides, this will drive conflict."

What was "my leader" supposed to do, give the moons all to you?

I bet you have the logistics in place to harvest all that Tech and get it safely to market, don't you?

If you really wanted to play tough you'd put together a crew to go take it. Generate some of that conflict CCP mistakenly believes centralized Technetium will inevitably provide.

Instead you take what you think look like cheap shots against the CFC and its leadership until that's subjected to scrutiny.

All from the comfort of an unwashed NPC alt.

When CCP get around to it and 0.0 in general.

It'll happen after Greece manages grinding +8% growth a year and US vote a president who won't save fail banks.

Yet people act like this is what the CFC as a whole want.

When in fact little could be further from the truth, as evidenced by the record of The Mittani's tenure as CSM chair.

Also as wrong as "My corp jacked the taxes to 100% and hopped in Hulks to earn some money."

To be fair to CCP: After past expansion patches players criticized i.e. "walking in Station - bad" etc. We want CCP to take care of internet space ships again. Now CCP is doing this - and now players ask: "But where is the new content?" I ask me that, too. Vets can become bitter vets real fast in these days. No expensive new toys, no new interesting wars. Only the same old same old.

As always we see the usual trolls, most of them from USA, who propagate some sort of Darwinism.

Market is supply and demand - nothing can go wrong, the market will fix it
Goons are too powerful? - why do you not fight them back?

It is even the majority of Eve players. It is part of the game. this game attracts lots of former school yard bullies or people, who always wanted to be one. It does not attract many nice and helpful people.

So many comments will be not very helpful. Just the usual troll trash talk.


The situation in 0.0 is out of control, but it was already years ago. Just not this obvious. Maybe CCP understood fixing Tech will not fix the problem? I remember, Goons were already moaning about stagnating 0.0 before they had Tech, when Darius Johnson was still their CEO and not CCP Sreegs. The problem is, there is no other powerful community like somethingaweful.com. Most likely there will never be such a community as competition, because in most countries of the world the population is much smaller than in USA, the internet population even more, the gaming community also and so on. These guys have really too much influence on the game and it is not good.

here is, in what Goons and I agree:

1) superior numbers should always win in a mass battle. The guys, who want old DD or blab titans back - **** them. They are like the Republicans, good that these little Donald Trumps lost and their money got nerfed.
2) Tech should have been redistributed a long time ago.


I said Goons were moaning already before Tech about stagnating 0.0 after they successfully waltzed over a couple of regions. So my guess is, redesigning 0.0 and let bigger numbers just win - will not do it. Goons would just adapt and built again an empire as big as they have now. The game needs mechanics, which make mega coalitions unattractive; which make Goons ask themselves, why they have say a couple full fleets, while they could reach their goal just with 1 fleet and the other 2 fleets would not help them. I do not know, how this can be done, without getting exploited like say FW. My feeling is, it is bad to restrict pilot numbers in alliances or systems. It would be better, to create many, many little targets, which they have to attack in many, many small fleets, if they want to take over a lot of systems or regions. Or they choose to to attack 1 target in a big ass fleet and make no progress at all, only stomped one little guy. Then they have the choice: attack somebody in one big fleet or do lots of small fleets.

Depleting and randomly respawning Moon goo is definately a good thing. I just do not think, that would change much on large scale. It does not make the super-rich less rich. It does not matter how the super-rich got their wealth, whether it was Tech, trading, some stupid casino/lottery, bots/cheating or whatever. It is just there.

...and in RL you watch Fox news.