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How much money can be made in wormhole mining?

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Mauri Munkeli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-11-14 02:37:04 UTC
How much money can i make if i mine in wormhole with maxed stat pilot per hour?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-11-14 08:16:00 UTC
No idea. Mainly cause it depends on market prices and what you mine and where your wh pops up (so where can you sell it) and many more things.

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Kevin Murray
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-11-14 08:27:34 UTC
Hey

Crazy question....What's wormhole mining?

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Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#4 - 2012-11-14 08:32:04 UTC
It's where you mine wormholes instead of rocks with a wormhole-laser instead of a mining laser Shocked

Seriously, it's where you find a wormhole, enter it (be prepared to die from the inhabitants npc or players), then scan down a gravsite inside (there are no asteroid belts in wormhole space) then mine from the gravsites (again be prepared to die from the neuting/scramming/badass npcs there, or any players who kill you in a second).

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Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#5 - 2012-11-14 08:39:55 UTC
I've found that although tempting and high likelihood of finding high grade ABC ores, you will have a logistics problem doing this solo.

Bare minimum would be 2 players I think, one to mine, one to haul, as there would be so much volume of ore to shift (even to get 1 refine).

That said, you'll probably need a third person to clear out the sleepers, unless you abandon a grav as soon as sleepers appear, or if it is already occupied.

Also, you're running the risk of an ambush at any time from anyone who has prescanned down the sites, and lack of local, adds to the risk :P

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Mauri Munkeli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-11-14 08:59:50 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
I've found that although tempting and high likelihood of finding high grade ABC ores, you will have a logistics problem doing this solo.

Bare minimum would be 2 players I think, one to mine, one to haul, as there would be so much volume of ore to shift (even to get 1 refine).

That said, you'll probably need a third person to clear out the sleepers, unless you abandon a grav as soon as sleepers appear, or if it is already occupied.

Also, you're running the risk of an ambush at any time from anyone who has prescanned down the sites, and lack of local, adds to the risk :P


I was thinking if i get tracktor beam and move the asteroid from the sleepers? Would this be possible?
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-11-14 09:07:39 UTC
It varies depending on the class of wormhole, the kind of grav site and where it connects.
The amount of ore per type of rock grows as you get higher in WH class, C1 has less Ark than C6.
All grav sites I've seen in WH had all kinds of ore, you will usually only find one rock of Ark, one or two of Bistot and roughly up to 4 or 6 Crokite.
The connection and the class of the WH will dictate your hauling possibilities with mass restrictions.
Out of a C1 you can expect some 40 to 50 mil of raw ore if you stick to ABC, with 5k of Ark, 10k of Bistot and 20k of Crokite for one sample grav site, but with a single toon mining in a T2 yield fitted retriever, that leaves you hanging in a fragile boat for a good 4 hours without fleet bonuses.
I don't remember seeing any mercoxit in grav sites though.
But you will also need to deal with the sleepers if it's not one of those fancy grav site with a toxic cloud doing 5k damage every now and then.
And all that... if the local residents don't notice you stealing their ore indeed.

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-11-14 09:10:18 UTC
Mauri Munkeli wrote:
Hazen Koraka wrote:
I've found that although tempting and high likelihood of finding high grade ABC ores, you will have a logistics problem doing this solo.

Bare minimum would be 2 players I think, one to mine, one to haul, as there would be so much volume of ore to shift (even to get 1 refine).

That said, you'll probably need a third person to clear out the sleepers, unless you abandon a grav as soon as sleepers appear, or if it is already occupied.

Also, you're running the risk of an ambush at any time from anyone who has prescanned down the sites, and lack of local, adds to the risk :P


I was thinking if i get tracktor beam and move the asteroid from the sleepers? Would this be possible?
Sleepers don't get fooled that easily, they're attracted by your shiny ship more than their rocks. But you can't use a tractor beam on anything else than wrecks and unanchored cans anyway.

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Mauri Munkeli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-11-14 09:26:05 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
Mauri Munkeli wrote:
Hazen Koraka wrote:
I've found that although tempting and high likelihood of finding high grade ABC ores, you will have a logistics problem doing this solo.

Bare minimum would be 2 players I think, one to mine, one to haul, as there would be so much volume of ore to shift (even to get 1 refine).

That said, you'll probably need a third person to clear out the sleepers, unless you abandon a grav as soon as sleepers appear, or if it is already occupied.

Also, you're running the risk of an ambush at any time from anyone who has prescanned down the sites, and lack of local, adds to the risk :P


I was thinking if i get tracktor beam and move the asteroid from the sleepers? Would this be possible?
Sleepers don't get fooled that easily, they're attracted by your shiny ship more than their rocks. But you can't use a tractor beam on anything else than wrecks and unanchored cans anyway.


I see, thank you.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-11-14 09:33:03 UTC
Mauri Munkeli wrote:
Hazen Koraka wrote:
I've found that although tempting and high likelihood of finding high grade ABC ores, you will have a logistics problem doing this solo.

Bare minimum would be 2 players I think, one to mine, one to haul, as there would be so much volume of ore to shift (even to get 1 refine).

That said, you'll probably need a third person to clear out the sleepers, unless you abandon a grav as soon as sleepers appear, or if it is already occupied.

Also, you're running the risk of an ambush at any time from anyone who has prescanned down the sites, and lack of local, adds to the risk :P


I was thinking if i get tracktor beam and move the asteroid from the sleepers? Would this be possible?


And you just spiked 11/10 on the troll meter.

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Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#11 - 2012-11-14 13:09:10 UTC
J'Poll wrote:


And you just spiked 11/10 on the troll meter.


Lol my thoughts exactly...

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Keno Skir
#12 - 2012-11-14 15:15:17 UTC
Lots of people used to think tractor beams move anything. You people all cry troll too much.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-11-14 16:08:48 UTC
Good luck hauling all that ABC ore out and having deposits all over high sec because of mass limits on wh's. The serious miners in whs without a doubt compress with a rorqual, only way I would do it.
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-11-14 16:41:36 UTC
Casirio wrote:
Good luck hauling all that ABC ore out and having deposits all over high sec because of mass limits on wh's. The serious miners in whs without a doubt compress with a rorqual, only way I would do it.
Clearly, that stuff also takes horrible amounts of space in CHAs if not.

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Marsan
#15 - 2012-11-14 19:23:57 UTC
The problem with mining in w-space is not the sleeper, gankers, or worm hole mass limits. You can address these with smart tactics, help from friends, and the like. The real problem is that in a given wspace system you may go weeks without any mining sites. So going into worm holes for mining alone is just silly. It's a good source of income along with everything else you can do, but alone it's not worth it.

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Utsen Dari
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-11-14 20:51:26 UTC
Note that while the ore may not be worth the risk, the gas is often very profitable, and mining gas takes a lot less skill investment to pay off.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-14 20:57:24 UTC
Utsen Dari wrote:
Note that while the ore may not be worth the risk, the gas is often very profitable, and mining gas takes a lot less skill investment to pay off.

without a doubt, only indy skill I have trained is gas harvesting V :) well worth it if you are going to spend any length of time in a wh.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-11-14 21:39:15 UTC
Depends on the guy Straight

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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-11-15 20:02:19 UTC  |  Edited by: LHA Tarawa
The real answer is:

The ABCs really don't pay that much more than high sec ores. Based on buy prices in Rens (the trade hub near where I operate), 1 m3 of veldspar melts to mins that sell for about 170 ISK. Other high sec ores melt to about 180-190 per m3. B and C melt to about 180-200 ISK per M3. A will get you 220 ISK per M3.

So, at best 20-30% more ISK for WH A over high sec ores and the extra rorq boost (if you build a rorq in the hole) is what you are getting over high sec mining. Then you have to compress the ore, haul the ore out, and face the much higher risks associated with WH mining.

I have a friend that WH mine in retrievers, no orca boost, and uses the POS to refine before hauling out. So, he's losing the hulk bonus, the orca bonus, hauling time, and a 25% loss from refining at the POS... But it is a way for him to get away from high sec war decs.
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#20 - 2012-11-15 20:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Dar Manic
Mauri Munkeli wrote:
Sin Pew wrote:
Mauri Munkeli wrote:
Hazen Koraka wrote:
I've found that although tempting and high likelihood of finding high grade ABC ores, you will have a logistics problem doing this solo.

Bare minimum would be 2 players I think, one to mine, one to haul, as there would be so much volume of ore to shift (even to get 1 refine).

That said, you'll probably need a third person to clear out the sleepers, unless you abandon a grav as soon as sleepers appear, or if it is already occupied.

Also, you're running the risk of an ambush at any time from anyone who has prescanned down the sites, and lack of local, adds to the risk :P


I was thinking if i get tracktor beam and move the asteroid from the sleepers? Would this be possible?
Sleepers don't get fooled that easily, they're attracted by your shiny ship more than their rocks. But you can't use a tractor beam on anything else than wrecks and unanchored cans anyway.


I see, thank you.


The sleepers only spawn one time. Once dealt with, you are ok from that perspective... but beware of live players looking to separate you from your ship!!

Probably better to mine a WH when you are living in the WH space. Can fill in the dead times when you are alone with no one to run sites with.

I just don't understand null sec players.

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