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Silver Plated
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-11-15 14:13:03 UTC
I didn't read but let me see...

blah blah blah I'm an angry nerd playing a sociopath in a video game blah blah blah

Something like that?

Also, if you kill off the plankton the entire ecology collapses and it takes a lot of plankton to support a healthy food chain.

You're analogy is bad and you should feel bad.

Plankton are the basis for the entire food chain. They are the producers who support the rest of the creatures on the food chain in either direct or indirect ways.

Your analogy is still bad.

Also you aren't krill. You're bottom feeders. Sitting on the bottom waiting for the scraps to fall into your mouths. While many creatures have evolved to take advantage of that they are rarely a cornerstone species. If they ceased to exist the ecology wouldn't completely collapse.

Do I need to say it again? No, but I want to. Your analogy is bad and you should feel bad.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-11-15 14:15:36 UTC
Silver Plated wrote:
I didn't read but let me see...

blah blah blah I'm an angry nerd playing a sociopath in a video game blah blah blah

Something like that?

Also, if you kill off the plankton the entire ecology collapses and it takes a lot of plankton to support a healthy food chain.

You're analogy is bad and you should feel bad.

Plankton are the basis for the entire food chain. They are the producers who support the rest of the creatures on the food chain in either direct or indirect ways.

Your analogy is still bad.

Also you aren't krill. You're bottom feeders. Sitting on the bottom waiting for the scraps to fall into your mouths. While many creatures have evolved to take advantage of that they are rarely a cornerstone species. If they ceased to exist the ecology wouldn't completely collapse.

Do I need to say it again? No, but I want to. Your analogy is bad and you should feel bad.


You must have felt pretty bad to write that...

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#23 - 2012-11-15 14:15:50 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.


Yawn


Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis
Curatores Veritatis Alliance

I would yawn, but I'm too busy laughing.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#24 - 2012-11-15 14:25:06 UTC
I don't know why people feel the need to post their opinion of other people's opinions. Seems a little pointless to me.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#25 - 2012-11-15 14:26:29 UTC
@OP
Nice rant, I guess you didn't learn from your first failure.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-11-15 14:31:03 UTC
@ OP.

Thank you for posting this.

You have single-handedly made the entire worlds IQ go down by one.


Grats.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#27 - 2012-11-15 14:40:17 UTC
Look at all these butthurt miners. +1 to OP.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2012-11-15 14:46:34 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
MinefieldS wrote:
EVE is a hunting simulator and they're not phytoplankton - they're deer.

You don't just shoot at the water hoping for some phytoplankton killmails?


Its harder than it looks
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-11-15 15:58:42 UTC
DId I miss the point that aligned with the title of the thread?

Why do phytoplankton need krill?

Krill need phytoplankton, sure. Suck PVPers, with too few friends, that can't win a fight against someone that is actually ready for a fight are forced to gank people that are not looking for or prepared for a fight. I get that.

But the title of the post claims that the phytoplankton need the krill. I saw nothing in the argument justifying why phytoplankton need the krill.

Why do phytoplankton need krill?
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#30 - 2012-11-15 16:02:04 UTC
I awoke to the oddest sound, as if thousands of microscopic organisms were all crying out at once...

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-11-15 16:13:13 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.


Yawn


Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis
Curatores Veritatis Alliance

I would yawn, but I'm too busy laughing.


Too busy spanking your monkey for the 10th time today is more likely.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#32 - 2012-11-15 16:13:51 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
DId I miss the point that aligned with the title of the thread?

Why do phytoplankton need krill?

Krill need phytoplankton, sure. Suck PVPers, with too few friends, that can't win a fight against someone that is actually ready for a fight are forced to gank people that are not looking for or prepared for a fight. I get that.

But the title of the post claims that the phytoplankton need the krill. I saw nothing in the argument justifying why phytoplankton need the krill.

Why do phytoplankton need krill?


Well, if there are no krill, then who's gonna try to kill you?

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#33 - 2012-11-15 16:15:41 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.


Yawn


Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis
Curatores Veritatis Alliance

I would yawn, but I'm too busy laughing.


Too busy spanking your monkey for the 10th time today is more likely.


Usually 10, but It was 11 today, I just watch Big Bang Theory and those nerd chicks are hot.
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-11-15 16:23:14 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.


Yawn


Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis
Curatores Veritatis Alliance

I would yawn, but I'm too busy laughing.


Too busy spanking your monkey for the 10th time today is more likely.


Usually 10, but It was 11 today, I just watch Big Bang Theory and those nerd chicks are hot.


LOL!

Touche

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-11-15 17:58:12 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I awoke to the oddest sound, as if thousands of microscopic organisms were all crying out at once...

Stepped in the shower again?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#36 - 2012-11-15 18:07:34 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I awoke to the oddest sound, as if thousands of microscopic organisms were all crying out at once...

Stepped in the shower again?


Bwahaha! Gotta hand it to a good burn. :D

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#37 - 2012-11-15 20:22:51 UTC
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