Wormholes

To a degree yes - tho a 30man active corp in a C4 is wasting their time when they could be pulling in far more in a C5/6. C2/3 is better for a casual corp with mixed skills tho than a C4/3 as when activity is light then they don't have the potential to run local sites so easily - theres going to be some crossover tho. i.e. if they are very active in running their static then a C4/3 could make more sense.

My corp is looking for a new home. Ideally we want a C4->C3, but I have found a C4->C4 with extremely good PI and the cataclysmic effect (ideal for spider tanking)

At the moment, we are few players but good skilled. The only problem is reseting wormholes to arrive at k-space or getting a C3 (the best thing we can farm at the moment)

So our chances are: keep looking for a C4/3, or stay in our C4/4 and do the industrial stuff. What is your advice? (at the moment we can't fly tech III, but we are close though)

Thanks, in the end I sold my wormhole. We'll use that money to buy a C4->C3

I know about the logistics. We have mounted and de-mounted our POS in C2 through a lowsec (fortunately, the second time was a LS beside a High Sec system, and it took us the whole afternoon, even considering the POS was medium)

In terms of PVP, probably we are going to keep our exits to k-space

BUGRY lurked in a C4 Black hole for nigh on 12 months. We chose the C2 static for the pew, of which there was plenty. Plus plenty of tardPOSes and suchlike for me to work the TF Effect upon and get uber rich.

The C4/Blackhole was good. We would run 3-4 DPS battleships with MWD and 2 logi alts. You'd close the 100km to the sleepers in a minute and then vape them. We would average 40-60M ISK per hour. 80-100 with RR Domis.

The Black hole effect was also luls. Warriors were hopeless, which was fun when people would try PVPing with them and would land no damage. The extra align time was an absolute whore, though, for Orcas and caps (we built two; they got sold, stlen, sold, sold back to a member again). Ammo choie and fits had to change; we would roll no gyros and all TE's on canes and clones, and laugh hilariously at Cynabals who tried tackling us.

However, C4's are mostly uninhabited because the sites absolutely require teamwork or multi-boxing, and if you aren't multiboxing or pimping Tengus then the ISK/hr suffers. We would get better from C1's because the blue poo isn't worth much more than C3's and the wreck density isn't huge enough to make nanoribbon drops as lucrative.

Would I move back in? Probably.

C2 exits are for people who love to PVP. But these days, its a waste of time because most people are giant bears and watch too many tutorials and only bear it up weekly with all the salt pentagrams in place.

C3 exits are, as said, for bears. But I would also argue, having lived in all types of C3's, that the proper way to treat the C4/C3 is as a variety box of chocolates. One day, you go roaming in lowsec. The next day, you go annoy some bears in nullsec. Or repair the sec status you blew ganking idiots the day before. On another day, you do your hisec logistics.

C4/C4's are for hardcore antisocial neckbeards or people who like living in the wilderness eating backpackers. You are only going to encounter other C4s, at least half of which are empty. Then those may go up or down the spectrum, and your logistics chain will be only long enough to let your backpacker **** slave out of the basement. Then you eat her and howl at the moon.

C4/C5's are for people who can't figure out how to move into a C5.

C4/C1's are for perverted colorblind masochists who typed the J# wrong into wormnav and thought they were moving in to a giant sissy cloaca AKA C5/C1 or C6/C1, then only realised their mistake halfway through putting up the POS. Then they deluded themselves thinking only noobs live in C1's and there will be easy pickings...but to get any PVP you have to be like a pederast and stick a small sausage in a small hole a couple of dozen times to respawn it, and you just feel depressed afterwards and neck yourself.

And there you have it, C4 space explained.

Now I am intrigued!

C4 is generally safer if you make an effort to make it not worth evicting you. I mean, who honestly wants to bash a Large PoS without Capitals (especially a Dickstar)? The only reason to do it is if you're made someone very angry or the profit earned isn't outweighed by just going back to your own C5/6 and doing anoms.

Or i suppose, if they want the Hole, but in that case they're more likely to go for a C3.