EVE General Discussion

I liked your post because of the video - it's sad, but I grew up with that show, and that was very nostalgic.

Originality??

NERF CCP!!!

Has that been done yet??

"Carebear" is a common term used by people who do not identify themselves as such to index their feelings towards a certain style of playing they find annoying for no particular reason. The word does not have any specific meaning related to EVE, it's just a repository with some connotations shared by all individuals/parties who use it, one of those being "inhabitant of highsec". You won't get an exact definition of it because there is no such thing.

Also, stop being a douche, people are trying to help you.



You're slightly wrong here. "Nig-ger" is a real term, albeit a pejorative one. The word has a very specific meaning, it just denotes a characteristic; however, when a black person tells you he is not a nig-ger, he's not telling you his skin is not black, what he means is that he does not identify himself with the necessary negative connotations of the word. Everyone who speaks English has agreed on both, the denotation and connotations of the word, and they are inseparable.

Let's use "b-itch", for example. It's meaning is very simple; a b-itch is a female dog, and some are dams. On the other hand we have sires, which are male dogs. Those are terms used in dog breeding, but the laymen/society in general has altered the connotation of the former to have a very different, although somewhat related meaning; this to the point where the word now has taken on a new denotation: that of its pejorative implication.

Do you talk like that in real life?

By it's broadest definition I'm a carebear, I mine, I mission, I trade etc, however just because that's the way I choose to play doesn't mean that I'm immune from the charms of the odd bit of nefarious activity.

lol, I don't avoid it, sometimes I go looking for it. Still get called a bear though because PvE is my primary activity, and I choose to do it in highsec and the occasional unoccupied/wrong TZ wh.

I have no aversion to reading and google, since that is how I learned, but, I realise everyone is not like me, this is a basic human skill called empathy. If the game wants the prevent carebearism then pvp must be encouraged to others who do not want to trawl google for weeks. If the devs or player base do not wish to so this, then the rate of Carebears will remain what it is.

You have two choices.
Do something or support changes to prevent people becoming bears. (Thank god some people do this in game, they are also the ones least likely to whine about bears I find)
Stop whining like a little ***** about care bears.

This is a PVP game, if you have a problem then come up with a PVP solution. You think there are too many carebears, come up with a PVP solution to stopping carebearism. Calling on ccp to "nerf this, nerf that, get rid of hi sec" = NOT PvP. Exactly the same goes for whiners about afk cloaking, too many blues and so on. Solve it, or shut up.

What is that definition of insanity, expecting things to change while doing still the same things over and over?

You learn while managing people this fear of mistakes and fear of failing is soo pathological in everyone, and the same in game applies, I mean even in a fleet asking some a question or a volunteer and you get...total silence. Something has come to me in fact, if we are using the definition of carebear as risk averse, well then EVERYONE is a carebear, because certainly everyone is risk averse to something.

Can you walk out in front of 3000 people and give a presentation with confidence and eloquence?
Walk into a bar and approach the most beautiful woman there and start conversation?
Quit your job and retrain or mortgage the house to start a business, rather than staying the the same saaafe position forever?
Join the gym and lose the 50 lbs?

This is of course going to be replied to by the athletic millionaire playboys of eve LOL. I mean sure, I suppose it is gratifying to have made it to big fish in the little internet pond, and whine about the other fishes being too averse or lazy if they want to swim in the pond as well.

This is an example of a person seeing what they want to see rather than what is actually there. The truth is lots of different peopel complain about lots of different things, if you don't see the loads and loads of (for example )"EVE would get so many more subs if [insert anti-EVE idea here]" posts by people who self identify as living in high sec (and usually in an npc corp), then you're being willfully blind.

The subject of carebearism (which is just communisim, but slighty more fluffy LOL) does come up a lot, mainly because people like to ridicule others who are doing DUMB things.....

DUMB things like spending the time to download, install and log in to a game ADVERTIZED as cold, harsh, dark ,PVP centered and with THE harshest death penalty in the mmo world, created by mostly Icelandic psychopaths who do NOT like the "orthodox" MMO gaming represents 99+% off the mmo market......when you don't like games that are cold, harsh and dark made by Icelandic sociopaths

TLDR of above, If you don't like Icelandic Psychopathy, playing EVE is dumb and makes you a carebear...

I think you missed some of their advertising, to be honest.

Here's some more you missed.

I don't know about you.... but it doesn't look all that cold, harsh, or dark or even PVP-centric from those advertising perspectives. Maybe you're seeing something I'm not.... or something that just isn't there.

yea, you're reading all of that wrong. EVE has lots of things to do, that doesn't mean it's not what it is and has always been, which is basically a game about space-murder (and/or buliding things that help people space-murder others).

This is what i don't get about folks like you. It was obvious to me what EVE was before I D/L'd it, how is it not obviouls to you, unless your very good at seeing only things you want to see.