EVE General Discussion

the right to afk mine
torvin yulus
the proveldteriat papers

for Ice Monkey, the road to revolution began in the Tolle - when Ore-inator asked to borrow his skiff. Hers had been ganked by the goons, and unless she could borrow another one, she would have to grind back up from an ibis. There was no one she dared ask, except Ice Monkey.

this put Monkey in a dilemma. He had to help her - but if he lent her his skiff, she might afk mine withit. aside from the fact that you could get permabanned for many years for afk mining, the very idea shocked him at first. like everyone else, he ahd been caught by the gooncademy that afk mining was nasty and wrong - something that only pubbies would do

and there wasn't much chance that the New Order would fail to catch him. In his gooncademy classes, Monkey learned that each ice belt had a bumper that reported when someone was afk to goon command. the next time his skiff was in a belt, goon command would send a fleetof talos to gank him. he, as the skiff owner, would recieve the harshest punishment - for not taking pains to prevent the crime.

of course, Ore-inator did not nececarilly intend to afk the mines. she might want the skiff only to mine for her pos, but Monkey knew she was of a middle class family and could hardly afford a retriever, let alone her mining permits. afk mining in a skiff might be the only way she can PLEX her accounts. Monkey understood this himself having had to take a massive loan from the Goonbank to pay for the billions in mining permits of James 315 in the hope he could make it back mining.

later, Monkey would learn that there was a time when anyone could go afk mine ina belt for free. there were independent miners who mined thousands of units of ice a day without Goonswarm Financial Grants. but by 2012 both CCP and the goons had begun charging permits to acess ice. By 2015, ice mining without a mining permit was a bannable offense.

monkey would learn that anyone used to be able to go afk while mining. there were even guides to maximizing afk minging profit, but too many non goons made money so the goons ruled that afk mining had the sole purpose of destroying the goons.

goons still needed ice, of course, but ice miners in 2015 were distributed numbered skiffs and mining permits oblt, and only to Gooncademy graduates.

it was possible to bypass the mining permits and mine some ice without paying goons and James 315. but today that would require protection from bumpers and neither Goons nor Concord would ever give you that.

Monkey concluided he couldn't lend his skiff. but he couldn't refuse to help her because ice miners are comrades. he resovled the problem by doing something even more unthinkables - he gave her his account details so the goons would think that it was him, a good citizen who NEVER afk mined.

of course if James 316 or the goons ever found out about this, it would be curtains for not only those 2 but 1000 others for making ane xample. CCP policy was to not sell PLEX to anyone on the goon blacklist so that they wouldn't be able to keep playing anymore.

The future of 2015 is coming, do not let it happen!
PRoveldetariat!

This is getting ridiculous.

Really, really ridiculous.

When you're at the point where Reduction to Absurdity makes sense, your argument is pretty much done.

Torvin, even I'm confused now

Anslo, you put your faith in crazy.

TBH he's acting on his own. I never asked him to do this Gotta wonder who's on who's side. Oh well, makes Eve fun, right?

Also crazy's worked for me plenty of times \o/

Can you quote that please?

[ 2012.11.06 02:47:13 ] Anslo > o7
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:14 ] Anslo > dude
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:17 ] Anslo > i think we won in tolle
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:18 ] Anslo > O_o
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:23 ] Torvin Yulus > seriously?!
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:24 ] Torvin Yulus > how
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:31 ] Anslo > none for 3 or 4 days now
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:38 ] Torvin Yulus > sweet
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:38 ] Anslo > confirmation that new blog posts are using old screenshots
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:41 ] Anslo > not recent trolls
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:45 ] Anslo > WE GOT THE ******* ****** ***** ON THE RUN
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:51 ] Torvin Yulus > AWESOME
[ 2012.11.06 02:47:58 ] Torvin Yulus > when do we post? this movement needs momentum
[ 2012.11.06 02:48:01 ] Anslo > We can't stop here, we'll get em back all the way to Hallamia
[ 2012.11.06 02:48:07 ] Anslo > Not yet, give it a week to confirm
[ 2012.11.06 02:48:14 ] Anslo > once confirmed we keep it quiet
[ 2012.11.06 02:48:22 ] Anslo > we spread word to each of the other empires
[ 2012.11.06 02:48:47 ] Anslo > once we have 4 racial rebellions going
[ 2012.11.06 02:48:58 ] Anslo > we strike hallamia
[ 2012.11.06 02:49:08 ] Anslo > hallamai
[ 2012.11.06 02:49:11 ] Anslo > whatever
[ 2012.11.06 02:49:36 ] Torvin Yulus > we might need to recruit more people and appoint regional coordinators
[ 2012.11.06 02:49:40 ] Torvin Yulus > if we want a major offensive
[ 2012.11.06 02:50:14 ] Anslo > i know
[ 2012.11.06 02:50:21 ] Anslo > at this point, im working on war decs
[ 2012.11.06 02:54:19 ] Anslo > did you get my msg?
[ 2012.11.06 02:58:10 ] Torvin Yulus > yes
[ 2012.11.06 02:58:20 ] Torvin Yulus > i can work on it in my free time, do you have an idea for a theme beyond the mottos?
[ 2012.11.06 02:59:03 ] Anslo > for now thatll do, but if we can mock and mimic their stuff with our message, or come up with less gimicky stuff thatd be cool
[ 2012.11.06 02:59:11 ] Anslo > i like the communist posters of united workers from china
[ 2012.11.06 02:59:15 ] Anslo > dunno how that'd work in eve,
[ 2012.11.06 02:59:26 ] Torvin Yulus > i can make it work
[ 2012.11.06 02:59:48 ] Torvin Yulus > i'll have some ready in 1-2 weeks, which should coincide with your plans
[ 2012.11.06 03:00:06 ] Anslo > works fine by me
[ 2012.11.06 03:00:13 ] Anslo > man we need more people in here...
[ 2012.11.06 03:00:53 ] Torvin Yulus > indeed
[ 2012.11.06 03:03:59 ] Anslo > http://proveldtariat.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/bumpgeois-tracking/
[ 2012.11.06 03:04:00 ] Anslo > check it
[ 2012.11.06 03:06:45 ] Torvin Yulus > this is awesome
[ 2012.11.06 03:09:48 ] Torvin Yulus > i bet we can win thisd
[ 2012.11.06 03:10:51 ] Anslo > we will
[ 2012.11.06 03:10:58 ] Anslo > trust me, i wont stop, even if i have to do it solo
[ 2012.11.06 03:19:20 ] Torvin Yulus > i'm going to work on those posters
[ 2012.11.06 03:19:22 ] Torvin Yulus > o/ comrade

so...

Hurry up and pay us I guess

Torvin, that doesn't mean spam GD. That meant use photoshop

Oh well! Live and learn!

And like all so called "revolutuions", the proveldtariot starts to come apart form the inside 1st......