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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-11-13 03:26:58 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for?
CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them.
Including what many people here would consider "griefing".

Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space.

Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.



And we always do, makes the tears all that much better for lube

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Alara IonStorm
#42 - 2012-11-13 03:32:36 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

And we always do, makes the tears all that much better for lube

Lube? Since when did you start showing mercy?
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#43 - 2012-11-13 03:36:57 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

And we always do, makes the tears all that much better for lube

Lube? Since when did you start showing mercy?

That type of mercy goes both ways.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Alara IonStorm
#44 - 2012-11-13 03:39:10 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

That type of mercy goes both ways.

You know the old saying. No pain... umm.. less other peoples pain..

I may have made that one up.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-11-13 03:44:20 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

That type of mercy goes both ways.

You know the old saying. No pain... umm.. less other peoples pain..

I may have made that one up.


Sometimes they have the right attitude about it... they realize that they can kick and scream all they want but... it's going to happen

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-11-13 03:54:48 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for?
CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them.
Including what many people here would consider "griefing".

Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space.

Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.

You can still assassinate people but you have to pay someone in advance who might stiff you or convince them to do it while they risk being stiffed.

So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#47 - 2012-11-13 03:58:25 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Why place arbitrary restrictions on what bounties should be for?
CCP's intent for bounties is, quite literally, for whatever the hell you want to do with them.
Including what many people here would consider "griefing".

Too make it harder too commit or direct assaults in High Security Space.

Ya know like the entire reason for insurance Removal or Concord. Another road block to crime to get around.

You can still assassinate people but you have to pay someone in advance who might stiff you or convince them to do it while they risk being stiffed.

So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE.

Who doesn't want that nowadays? The contemporary gamer is looking for a gentle, guided experience. The days of dropping a paycheck to beat Contra at the arcade are long gone.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Alara IonStorm
#48 - 2012-11-13 04:01:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

So in other words you're in favor of continuing to marginalize crime in EVE.

I haven't said I am in favor of anything, I am just trying to work my way through some of the less mouth frothing talking points.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-11-13 04:01:58 UTC
Wow guys I was just saying it would be funny, as in a bug on expansion release, if Concord voided bounty payments if the player was Concorded.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#50 - 2012-11-13 04:11:35 UTC
There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live.
My predictions:

Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"

Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!"

Who put the goat in there?
fukier
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-11-13 04:32:25 UTC
does standings have anything to do with bounty payout?

like if i am being attacked and my gang m8's put a point on me... will they get a portion of the payout?

point being might aswell get some isk from a lost ship...
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#52 - 2012-11-13 04:36:25 UTC
fukier wrote:
does standings have anything to do with bounty payout?

like if i am being attacked and my gang m8's put a point on me... will they get a portion of the payout?

point being might aswell get some isk from a lost ship...
It will go to the final blow, so your buddy might be able to steal the entire bounty from them if he lands a volley of 1400's on you when you're deep in structure.

Who put the goat in there?
Ze'jira Penshar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-11-13 05:02:22 UTC
It'll still get abused somehow. Just watch.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#54 - 2012-11-13 05:23:37 UTC
One order of Bounty Bait ships coming up!
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2012-11-13 05:42:45 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
if you randomly attack a player with a bounty in high sec (one that isn't a war target, or in any way criminally flagged), will concord still ruin your day?

Yes. Example: you can bounty miners all day long, yet you will still get concorded when you attack. But you will actually get a bounty if you manage to kill them.

I told you so... :-D

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#56 - 2012-11-13 05:43:29 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live.
My predictions:

Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"

Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!"

Just kill a miner in a T2 exhumer

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#57 - 2012-11-13 05:56:34 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Shederov Blood wrote:
There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live.
My predictions:

Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"

Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!"

Just kill a miner in a T2 exhumer
I think the point went way over your head. Roll

Who put the goat in there?
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#58 - 2012-11-13 05:58:07 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Tried the new bounty system on Buckingham (the test server) yesterday. Its awesome. Freighter killed with a 500mil bounty on the pilot granted a 300mil payout. Blew up a megathron with a bountied pilot and a 20mil payout.

This is going to make bounty hunting interesting.

yk


Yes, yes it is.

Also, posting in another positive thread in GD. = )

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#59 - 2012-11-13 06:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Eugene Kerner
Shederov Blood wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Shederov Blood wrote:
There's still going to be a lot of uninformed individuals about when this goes live.
My predictions:

Day 1. "I just put a 200mil bounty on some dude and I'm not allowed to attack him, WTF CCP!!!1"

Day 2. "I just killed a cruiser with a 200mil bounty on it, and I only got a 3mil payment, but it's supposed to be 20%, WTF CCP???!"

Just kill a miner in a T2 exhumer
I think the point went way over your head. Roll


a Miner just has to have some millions bounty on him. If you kill him in a T2 exhumer your loss is paid for by the bounty.
Obviously CCP encourages this mechanic. Nothing wrong with Burning ISK is there?

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Herr Hammer Draken
#60 - 2012-11-13 07:07:19 UTC
The best part of all this is the 20% payout idea. Hmm only 1 player in 6 will be able to figure out that math. Simple as it is.
So yes I see lots of complaints, I killed him for the bounty and only got X amount. If I had known ahead of time I would never have attack him. "CCP I demand my ship replaced or I quit." LMAO!

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"