Warfare & Tactics

So I just finished my first few minor plexes in a Caldari-controlled system without dying. Yippee!

A few Qs though...

1) From what I've read, a minor plex should give you 10,000 LP for completion. But I received 25,000 LP. How is this calculated?

2) I've also read that FW missions provide more LP. But after requesting a few missions from lvl 1 and 2 agents, I only saw a max of 1,000 LP offered. Minor plexing seems like a much better deal. So why are some people saying FW missions give more LP?

3) Any suggestions for a Catalyst fit? :)

Because you're flying for Gallente and Gallente Faction Militia is more generous then others :)

For fittings you can look at: http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.php

Some fits there might work some might not. But it's always good to have a look at there to see your options before going for your own ideas.

I love SB and I'm glad they have a role in this. But yes, I agree. Mission should be changed to be a potential PvP trigger, like plexes. So redesigned to be less safe and to be done in ships with PvP setup.

Or, if they stay so, then are a mere PvE resource and the payout in respect of plexes should be rebalanced (nerfing the missions or increasing the plex).

Also after the nerf the social skill modifier became more relevant: before the nerf a level 4 mission was about like a medium plex, now is almost the double.

You are not the first person to pint this out, sadly activity away from peak fight times seems to have dropped but I expect it will pick up after the 4th Dec expansion.

I use a cat like this for minor plexing.

Carry lots of normal lead ammo to deal with npc’s , you can pretty much pop them as they spawn and this helps with the new timer changes. I normally start with Thorium loaded for PVP as it has a nice 20km optimal. Keep your distance when engaging arty thrashers and TD hookbills.

[Catalyst, 125mm cat]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I
Fourier Transform Tracking Program

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Warp Disruptor I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x1

Cat is getting a buff soon but may then have to compete with assault ships in the new small plexes.

Yes, if you see it just as an isk farming occasion instead of a whole gameplay then yes is more convenient to do as you say.
But, then why not just afk minining in high sec? ISK are a mere game tool, is not like if you make more ISK you win EvE. My opinion: at the end of the day if you played your gameplay and had your fun you win, doesn't matter how many ships or isk you gained or lost. It's a game.

And, yes, is an harsh game.

But where is not so? If a 0.0 alliance is stronger and has more numbers will crush a smaller one and get control over a larger and more lucrative region. Yes, then will be more convenient to join them if one only consider the isk.

But people simply do not consider just only the isk.

Unlike the other selfish players in the other Militias, I encourage every farmer in Eve to put together a rail catalyst and join the Federation Militia. With your help we can get to Tier 5 and we will all be able to fly a nearly unlimited supply of Federation Navy Comets and Navy Megathrons. Derp RR Navy Domi fleets ftw!

BTW, only Level 4 missions make sense over plexes.

You getting your ass kicked despite winning the sov war, just shows how far removed the sov war is from pvp.

We can have consequences and meaningfull combat without the war being lopsided and snowballing in the winner favor.

But anyway you wanted to know why minmatar was winning despite getting their asses kicked. So I told you.

It depends on how you choose to look at it.

I mean, consider Guild Wars 2. There's two basic forms of PvP in the game: structured PvP (sPvP) and World vs World vs World (3-sided battle between 3 servers).

In sPvP, there are no levels. The moment you enter the area, your character gets to max level. There's also no gear advantage - everyone has access to the exact same gear and weapons, which can be modified using exact same runes. And both gear and runes are totally free, you can mix and match at no cost as long as you like. Bottom line, the outcome of the battle is determined by class and player skill. And class isn't really an issue, as you don't need to level. You can take a character that is level 2, just past the tutorial, into the sPvP zone and have it turn max level and start PvPing with it. So, in the end, the ONLY thing that determines your success is your own skill.

Boring? Yeeeeah, I suppose, a little. There's only 3 maps currently, 4th one being added tomorrow. But at the same time, you are never left wondering if you won or lost based on other factors. I mean, in EVE, if you duke it out with another frigate, and you have 1 million SP and the guy who killed you had 100 million SP, it's really not surprising you got spanked. But in GW2, there's no such thing. If you got spanked, it's because you're not very good and need to improve. If you feel it's because the other guy's class is better (currently a valid point, the game is new and still grossly unbalanced), you can switch to that class, all it takes is 5 mins to get through the tutorial on a new character. And if you still lose, guess what? It's you! And there aren't any 20 v 1 battles, though it's not perfect (you sometimes get 5v8 to 7v8).

In the end, it's the price you pay for "fair" and "competitive" PvP. By comparison, EVE and even WoW are horrible roflstomps sometimes. I mean, I remember doing Alterac Valley in WoW where the entire team, 39 players, were all level 51. The opposing team was mostly level 60. We got torn to shreds. This can't happen in GW2, which is actually refreshing. Not to mention you don't have to go out looking for PvP, or fly around for 2 hrs looking for a decent fight. You could log in, and be PvPing against a ready, skilled and most importantly WILLING opponents within minutes in a fairly balanced scenario. Which is quite amazing, if that's what you want. Then again, if you're into being an 800lb gorilla and beating up 30lb kids in the sandbox, it's really not that fun.

Not saying it's better or anything. Just different approach. Sometimes it's good. Nice change of pace, every now and again. And incidentally, GW2 had 400k concurrent users even prior to launch. EVE has 450k users total. So it's not like it is an unpopular approach to PvP.

And if you are joining for any reason other than roleplay, but prefer more money instead of less money, join the winning side.