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Character Name Change Option??
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Minifoxychicky
Warframe Industry And Salvage
#1 - 2012-09-07 16:01:25 UTC
Hi CCP and people of EVE Online,

Just an idea but could it be possibleto add an option (paid with real cash or a high-ish isk amount) to be able to change a characters name??

I find it frustrating when I am looking at buying a character and am put off by some of the "unusual" names given to these characters that I personally wouldnt want to be seen flying under, though they are very imaginative. I would be willing to pay to be able to change a characters name when I choose to buy one.

Im sure there are more people out there other than me who would like such and option implemented.I dont want to have start a whole new character just because I cant get the name I want.

FOXY XXX
Wa'roun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-09-07 16:37:16 UTC
I only named this guy this because I couldn't get a name in that would work. This happens alot with MMOGs I start.

Many times for some odd reason it doesn't take the innocent name, and it doesn't even tell me why (name already taken would be nice to tell me; many times just name invalid comes up).

So I am stuck with this name.
Lavitakus Bromier
WTF Bunnies
#3 - 2012-09-07 17:12:40 UTC
I brought this a while ago and alot of hate.
and. Said.the same thing about buying a character.
Alot of people said that this could be exploited by a character scamming some one then changing their name
But that can get avoided by adding name change in history.

+1
Minifoxychicky
Warframe Industry And Salvage
#4 - 2012-09-07 17:37:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Minifoxychicky
Lavitakus Bromier wrote:

Alot of people said that this could be exploited by a character scamming some one then changing their name
But that can get avoided by adding name change in history.



This would be an awesome idea, name/alias history would help prevent scammers and they could make it unprofitable to change your name just to scam people by making the cost of the change a hefty amount eg. 2bil or so or if they go with real money for a name change, make it like $50 or something. I dont think many scammers would be keen to pay 2 bil a pop or $50 to go out of their way to scam people.
Spike Dragullia
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-09-07 17:56:55 UTC
It would be nice to be able to change your toon's name but I doubt that the name history would be included because the tag line is the universe is in your hands. CCP gives players freedom to do what they like but if the name history was available players would be limited on what they could use the name change system for. I wouldn't like a scammer to be able to change their toon name at will but I doubt CCP would do something to make it hard for scammers to make money.
Jasper Molgvits
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-09-07 17:58:43 UTC
Spike Dragullia wrote:
It would be nice to be able to change your toon's name but I doubt that the name history would be included because the tag line is the universe is in your hands. CCP gives players freedom to do what they like but if the name history was available players would be limited on what they could use the name change system for. I wouldn't like a scammer to be able to change their toon name at will but I doubt CCP would do something to make it hard for scammers to make money.


One name change per character then?
Minifoxychicky
Warframe Industry And Salvage
#7 - 2012-09-07 18:21:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Minifoxychicky
Even if it was just when buying a character. eg. When you buy a character, you get a (one only) name change for that character. Not making it available to every player in eve to use whenever they fancied, to take advagntage of others as I know that some people would try to use this to scam the hell out of people/corps and alliances in EVE if it was available to everyone.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#8 - 2012-09-07 18:32:10 UTC

While I'm not opposed to name changes in particular, I don't want to create an easy way for a corp theif or espionage character to fade into the background and change their name.... . There should be consequences for your actions, and they should follow that character....

A name change history might be a reasonable compromise, but any official name changes shouldn't mess up contacts, it shouldn't be easy to do, and it should have some cost / drawback.
Lavitakus Bromier
WTF Bunnies
#9 - 2012-09-07 19:14:40 UTC
Agreed. You may have changed your name but you still the same person.
Lucious Shazih
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-09-07 21:18:31 UTC
Well one can change their name in real life, i don't see why not in game. it could be a cumbersome process though, that involves bribing concord and other authorities, and possibly making it something that can be done only once a year like jump cloning.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-09-07 21:31:24 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

While I'm not opposed to name changes in particular, I don't want to create an easy way for a corp theif or espionage character to fade into the background and change their name.... . There should be consequences for your actions, and they should follow that character....

A name change history might be a reasonable compromise, but any official name changes shouldn't mess up contacts, it shouldn't be easy to do, and it should have some cost / drawback.

As an example on how this could be handled in the city that I live in you can go to city hall and request a zoning change for your land, for the next month a sign is placed in your area explaining what you are wanting to do and why, if anyone in the area finds a problem with the new zoning if becomes nullified.
Applying the same thing to this players would be notified that person X wants to change there name to Y, and for the next month players have the opportunity to decide weather or not the name change will go through, so that local ganker would probably not get a name change. Maybe have a redirect to a name change forum that players can post a reason to negate the change, if there is sufficient reasons to deny the change then it would be a no go.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#12 - 2012-09-07 22:34:55 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

While I'm not opposed to name changes in particular, I don't want to create an easy way for a corp theif or espionage character to fade into the background and change their name.... . There should be consequences for your actions, and they should follow that character....

A name change history might be a reasonable compromise, but any official name changes shouldn't mess up contacts, it shouldn't be easy to do, and it should have some cost / drawback.

As an example on how this could be handled in the city that I live in you can go to city hall and request a zoning change for your land, for the next month a sign is placed in your area explaining what you are wanting to do and why, if anyone in the area finds a problem with the new zoning if becomes nullified.
Applying the same thing to this players would be notified that person X wants to change there name to Y, and for the next month players have the opportunity to decide weather or not the name change will go through, so that local ganker would probably not get a name change. Maybe have a redirect to a name change forum that players can post a reason to negate the change, if there is sufficient reasons to deny the change then it would be a no go.


If you don't send me 50m isk, I'll protest your name change....
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-09-07 22:39:54 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

While I'm not opposed to name changes in particular, I don't want to create an easy way for a corp theif or espionage character to fade into the background and change their name.... . There should be consequences for your actions, and they should follow that character....

A name change history might be a reasonable compromise, but any official name changes shouldn't mess up contacts, it shouldn't be easy to do, and it should have some cost / drawback.

As an example on how this could be handled in the city that I live in you can go to city hall and request a zoning change for your land, for the next month a sign is placed in your area explaining what you are wanting to do and why, if anyone in the area finds a problem with the new zoning if becomes nullified.
Applying the same thing to this players would be notified that person X wants to change there name to Y, and for the next month players have the opportunity to decide weather or not the name change will go through, so that local ganker would probably not get a name change. Maybe have a redirect to a name change forum that players can post a reason to negate the change, if there is sufficient reasons to deny the change then it would be a no go.


If you don't send me 50m isk, I'll protest your name change....

And what is the valid reason for your protest? Can you provide and proof that your contest actually bears weight?
If not is would be chalked up as a troll.
BTW I'm not for name change at all, but I'm am not against it either.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#14 - 2012-09-08 01:24:50 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

While I'm not opposed to name changes in particular, I don't want to create an easy way for a corp theif or espionage character to fade into the background and change their name.... . There should be consequences for your actions, and they should follow that character....

A name change history might be a reasonable compromise, but any official name changes shouldn't mess up contacts, it shouldn't be easy to do, and it should have some cost / drawback.

As an example on how this could be handled in the city that I live in you can go to city hall and request a zoning change for your land, for the next month a sign is placed in your area explaining what you are wanting to do and why, if anyone in the area finds a problem with the new zoning if becomes nullified.
Applying the same thing to this players would be notified that person X wants to change there name to Y, and for the next month players have the opportunity to decide weather or not the name change will go through, so that local ganker would probably not get a name change. Maybe have a redirect to a name change forum that players can post a reason to negate the change, if there is sufficient reasons to deny the change then it would be a no go.


If you don't send me 50m isk, I'll protest your name change....

And what is the valid reason for your protest? Can you provide and proof that your contest actually bears weight?
If not is would be chalked up as a troll.
BTW I'm not for name change at all, but I'm am not against it either.


All "valid" reasons are very subjective....
Perhaps you're a corp theif...
Perhaps you ganked a corp mate and I keep tabs on you for revenge...
Perhaps you're being a douche in chat, andwant you blacklisted for it...
Perhaps you joined my In-Game Event and were a complete nightmare, and it's important to keep track of who you are so we con't let you join another event...
Perhaps you're an AWOXer, a Scammer, a botter, an OOC booster alt, or just a miner/trader/industrialist competitor, and I want to keep track of you...

Basically, all reasons come down to, I want to keep track of you because I just want to ruin you.... and that's good enough...

Proving or disproving any of the above would be a nightmare for CCP, so how do you decide what is a legit complaint, or an illegit complaint... And since you can't.... I'll just blackmail you with an alt until you pay me off...
Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-09-08 01:28:01 UTC
Lavitakus Bromier wrote:
I brought this a while ago and alot of hate.
Alot of people said that this could be exploited by a character scamming some one then changing their name
But that can get avoided by adding name change in history.
+1


You can scam morons out of supercapitals these days and not become notorious enough that everyone knows your name. Yet you can have everyone know your name if someone makes a video about you Kurator has been called primary so many times in practically every fleet since Shadoo's AHAC rage video. After it first came out people would convo him randomly just to tell him he's primary. While he's happy to just keep the name and deal, use other characters etc, others might quite rightly wish to change their name to avoid the consequences of someone else's actions that they have no control over.

Also some people pick really stupid names and later realize what a moron they used to be.

Plus yeah, when a character is transferred it should be allowed to change it's name as it'll be a new person controlling it. With a name history of course.



I'm aware that GMs will change your character's name in some circumstances, like if they're un-biomassing it and someone else took the name while you were dead.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-09-08 06:58:54 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

While I'm not opposed to name changes in particular, I don't want to create an easy way for a corp theif or espionage character to fade into the background and change their name.... . There should be consequences for your actions, and they should follow that character....

A name change history might be a reasonable compromise, but any official name changes shouldn't mess up contacts, it shouldn't be easy to do, and it should have some cost / drawback.

As an example on how this could be handled in the city that I live in you can go to city hall and request a zoning change for your land, for the next month a sign is placed in your area explaining what you are wanting to do and why, if anyone in the area finds a problem with the new zoning if becomes nullified.
Applying the same thing to this players would be notified that person X wants to change there name to Y, and for the next month players have the opportunity to decide weather or not the name change will go through, so that local ganker would probably not get a name change. Maybe have a redirect to a name change forum that players can post a reason to negate the change, if there is sufficient reasons to deny the change then it would be a no go.


If you don't send me 50m isk, I'll protest your name change....

And what is the valid reason for your protest? Can you provide and proof that your contest actually bears weight?
If not is would be chalked up as a troll.
BTW I'm not for name change at all, but I'm am not against it either.


All "valid" reasons are very subjective....
Perhaps you're a corp theif...
Perhaps you ganked a corp mate and I keep tabs on you for revenge...
Perhaps you're being a douche in chat, andwant you blacklisted for it...
Perhaps you joined my In-Game Event and were a complete nightmare, and it's important to keep track of who you are so we con't let you join another event...
Perhaps you're an AWOXer, a Scammer, a botter, an OOC booster alt, or just a miner/trader/industrialist competitor, and I want to keep track of you...

Basically, all reasons come down to, I want to keep track of you because I just want to ruin you.... and that's good enough...

Proving or disproving any of the above would be a nightmare for CCP, so how do you decide what is a legit complaint, or an illegit complaint... And since you can't.... I'll just blackmail you with an alt until you pay me off...

And those are all reasons that a player should not be able to change there name, proof could be loss mails, kill mails, screen shots of logs, or a large group of people with similar encounters.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Mr Sklash
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-11-06 18:34:24 UTC
+1 on this name change request,

Either way, they could also do a name change restriction on account transfers or something like that.. When the account is transfered you would have 24hrs to change the account name after transfer. Since most accounts transfers are atless 2B ISK up to 30B ISK. At that price for an account, a name change would be nice. For me, if I would purchase an account, I wouldn't care about the account contacts other then the Agents.
Nadja Dobrovodsky
Raccoon Covenant
Fraternity.
#18 - 2012-11-12 18:10:46 UTC
+1

I'd also like to be able to change the name of my characters. It should not be a dificult proces. I was not thinking about the In-game scams and roberty and all that stuff. Maybe we could include an investigation to see as why would someone like to chage it, to prevent scams and corp robbery.

If it needs to be paid with real money or ISK thats fine (but not too much like 250M or so) but just like atribute changes, you should only be able to change it once per year and we could have a history just like corp "Employment history" tab and with dates included.

One of my alts has the same last name as this and I don't like it to be like that anymore. My other alt I just don't know why I put that name though.

I previously replied to a facebook post that alowed you to resculpt your character, with the price of a plex I should also be able to change name, race, sex, and all that without making any changes to skill points, because paying a PLEX to only be able to resculpt my face? It is too much.
Oleszka
Syntropia Of Avatara
#19 - 2012-11-12 18:24:09 UTC
The Name is the only thing in eve, which stays for you and for ever.

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#20 - 2012-11-12 18:36:06 UTC
I support name changes, it would allow me to name my production characters after their model lines.

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