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Full Team Rosters

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CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-11-12 11:35:09 UTC
So we want to post full team rosters publicly for a thing. I just want to get some team feedback on reasons why or why not you might think that is "k".

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Gooby pls

Aurelia Septima
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-11-12 13:42:11 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
So we want to post full team rosters publicly for a thing. I just want to get some team feedback on reasons why or why not you might think that is "k".


some people spent like hours spying on other teams and you want now just to give it all out for free?Roll
CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2012-11-12 13:56:01 UTC
Aurelia Septima wrote:
CCP Dolan wrote:
So we want to post full team rosters publicly for a thing. I just want to get some team feedback on reasons why or why not you might think that is "k".


some people spent like hours spying on other teams and you want now just to give it all out for free?Roll


Yes

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Twitter: @CCPDolan

Gooby pls

Arydanika
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#4 - 2012-11-12 14:10:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Arydanika
Knowing who the teams are offers a buy-in for players. In the Alliance Tournament most players are rooting for their alliance, a coalition member or someone they hold in high regard. In all these cases, the observer has a connection to the team and a reason to care/root for that team. Due to the anonymity of the closed team rosters, viewers no longer have the same buy in or reason to care as much.

Another huge part of the Alliance Tournaments were the rivalries. Seeing two teams with "in-game grudges" brawling it out on an evenly matched field was something to look forward to. Unfortunately those rivalries are now masked unless you have well placed spies.

Also, please.

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Aurelia Septima
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-11-12 14:10:15 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
Aurelia Septima wrote:
CCP Dolan wrote:
So we want to post full team rosters publicly for a thing. I just want to get some team feedback on reasons why or why not you might think that is "k".


some people spent like hours spying on other teams and you want now just to give it all out for free?Roll


Yes


Ok
Then you wouldn't mind me starting?(not registered characters of course but characters involved in trainings)

The Huns (HUN RELOADED team):

Brinn Yerdola
Bubba12
dlui
DonatxAK47
Feitosa
Fistandalus
Humor Harold
Isanoe nothwood
Jim Turner
Justice forHungary
KAaaffe
Kunos01
Mistress Ice
pongi
Pr3t0r
Shonion
Yago Yuhn
Tusko Hopkins
O'Tohhurom
Princess Danielle
The HALAL
Onexis

Why Dash (Pandemic Legion team):

Admiral Goberius
Alekto Descendant
Atara
Blast x
Cheeb aman
Coug
Creyn Hawk
Dancul 1001
Destr0math
Fantome
Hatsumi Kobayashi
joefishy
kadaEl
Max Butched
Rn Bonnet
Tijuana
Timberfox
Tinkeng

Goggle Wearing Internet Crime Fighters (Seldarine's team):

bluemelon
conmen
fafer
jassmin joy
redon
seldarine
virrgo
w4rr10r
weener
wilhelm caster
zelota

Arydanika
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#6 - 2012-11-12 15:18:14 UTC
Aurelia Septima wrote:

Then you wouldn't mind me starting?(not registered characters of course but characters involved in trainings)

Welp, can't leave a job half done. Guess CCP just has to post the whole thing now. It would only be fair.

Runner of Voices from the Void podcast, Eve Online Pod Pack & DJ on eve-radio.com Sundays at 1800.  Organizer of the ATX Eve Online Meet. ♥

Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#7 - 2012-11-12 15:31:25 UTC
/o\
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#8 - 2012-11-12 15:34:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Buhhdust Princess
BUSTEEDDD!

oshi..

Again, with other tournaments such as league of legends, the players are all known very well individually, as are the teams. I think if CCP could adopt this, it would be a very clever thing to do. I personally believe releasing full team rosters would make it more difficult for people to train without getting spied on, but it would make the tournament more well known, well publicised and make it more in-depth. Which i think will capture the interest of a lot more people.

Also, when are we getting these Teamspeak interviews with captains? That's probably one of the best ideas for publicity yet!
-Buhhd
Seldarine
Resolute Supremacy
#9 - 2012-11-12 15:43:14 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
BUSTEEDDD!

oshi..

Again, with other tournaments such as league of legends, the players are all known very well individually, as are the teams. I think if CCP could adopt this, it would be a very clever thing to do. I personally believe releasing full team rosters would make it more difficult for people to train without getting spied on, but it would make the tournament more well known, well publicised and make it more in-depth. Which i think will capture the interest of a lot more people.

Also, when are we getting these Teamspeak interviews with captains? That's probably one of the best ideas for publicity yet!
-Buhhd


I intend to use a soundboard from the movie The Campaign to answer all questions in any interview.
Arydanika
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#10 - 2012-11-12 16:09:58 UTC
Seldarine wrote:

I intend to use a soundboard from the movie The Campaign to answer all questions in any interview.

Totes looking forward to this.

Runner of Voices from the Void podcast, Eve Online Pod Pack & DJ on eve-radio.com Sundays at 1800.  Organizer of the ATX Eve Online Meet. ♥

Justice forHungary
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-11-12 20:58:46 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
BUSTEEDDD!

oshi..

Again, with other tournaments such as league of legends, the players are all known very well individually, as are the teams. I think if CCP could adopt this, it would be a very clever thing to do. I personally believe releasing full team rosters would make it more difficult for people to train without getting spied on, but it would make the tournament more well known, well publicised and make it more in-depth. Which i think will capture the interest of a lot more people.

Also, when are we getting these Teamspeak interviews with captains? That's probably one of the best ideas for publicity yet!
-Buhhd


Respect here ! We were followed by pl , verge of collapse , darkside and who knows who else.....

This is bad we can be checked of what we doing.

We want to test in a safe system ccp make it happen.
tsukubasteve
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-11-12 22:20:07 UTC
I don't understand why its being so hush-hush when it comes to the players in the teams.

At the end of the day if you are against a power house does knowing in advance really make that much a difference; besides which its pretty easy to just ask around; in the bringing solo back channel 3/4 of the teams captains and/or their team mates sit in there just chattin crap about the tournament anyway.

NOT SURE WHY EVERYONE SO SRSBSNZ
SpeedY G0nZaleZ
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#13 - 2012-11-12 23:50:32 UTC
Personally I feel having all your team members displayed opens the door for more spying as the more established teams will throw around some ISK, promises, and influence to try to get some inside information.

That would be my primary reservation.
Dwimm
CHON
THE R0NIN
#14 - 2012-11-13 00:17:04 UTC
SpeedY G0nZaleZ wrote:
Personally I feel having all your team members displayed opens the door for more spying as the more established teams will throw around some ISK, promises, and influence to try to get some inside information.

That would be my primary reservation.


That is EVE!!! every captain had a choice to pick (nominate) his own team, if he has done a mistake by nominating somebody who can not be trusted, well... he can blame himself.

What i would really like to see in the future tournaments (cash or alliance), is to have a dedicated 'secure' (entry by password based?) system with seeded station for every team to test. I think this is something that CCP should really look into.
Alekto Descendant
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#15 - 2012-11-13 02:27:50 UTC
I like how you go with the 'This is EVE, HTFU approach', but then ask for your own system to test in.

Spying is part of this game my friends, adapt and overcome.
Lucas Quaan
Dark Enlightenment
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#16 - 2012-11-13 10:18:16 UTC
Aurelia Septima wrote:

Ok
Then you wouldn't mind me starting?(not registered characters of course but characters involved in trainings)

My wl is bigger than yours.

But yeah, you are releasing info that some of us actually work to acquire. That sort of goes against the concept where intelligence is part of the tournament. If you want to run things differently in the future, sure, but there will not be less spying from making teams public this time.
CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2012-11-13 11:01:06 UTC
I have released the full team rosters and they can be found in a thread stickied at the top of this forum.

CCP Dolan | Community Representative

Twitter: @CCPDolan

Gooby pls

tofucake prime
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#18 - 2012-11-13 15:08:58 UTC
XXXMity Shadow of Ram Legion DOT Reloaded Hattree.XXXWorstOffenders is missing Suleiman Shouaa

Also we have been trying to get Karah Serrigan and Dr Narud removed since he quit the game entirely. Can this get resolved some time BEFORE the tournament starts, at least the bit with Sulei?
CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2012-11-13 16:03:16 UTC
tofucake prime wrote:
XXXMity Shadow of Ram Legion DOT Reloaded Hattree.XXXWorstOffenders is missing Suleiman Shouaa

Also we have been trying to get Karah Serrigan and Dr Narud removed since he quit the game entirely. Can this get resolved some time BEFORE the tournament starts, at least the bit with Sulei?


Suleiman Shouaa is not on my list of team members for XXXMity. You should probably submit a petition to community as this is the first I've heard of any of this. That's generally the thing to do.

CCP Dolan | Community Representative

Twitter: @CCPDolan

Gooby pls

Gorski Car
#20 - 2012-11-13 16:37:04 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
tofucake prime wrote:
XXXMity Shadow of Ram Legion DOT Reloaded Hattree.XXXWorstOffenders is missing Suleiman Shouaa

Also we have been trying to get Karah Serrigan and Dr Narud removed since he quit the game entirely. Can this get resolved some time BEFORE the tournament starts, at least the bit with Sulei?


Suleiman Shouaa is not on my list of team members for XXXMity. You should probably submit a petition to community as this is the first I've heard of any of this. That's generally the thing to do.


We posted about the issue here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166722&find=unread

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