EVE General Discussion

It is a great shame to see people lose there jobs in any climite let alone this one.

But CCP has made some bad decisions this year that has effected greatly the player base and now the company itself. I for one earlier this year had 5 accounts. Now i am on 4 and planning to sell another toon on the forums soon to cut down to 3 accounts.

I used to be on all the time people used to text if i was not online (sad really) but that was till the middle of this year when i have seen friends cancel there subscriptions and not play anymore i will always play eve where there is an EVE i enjoy the game the community but CCP forgot that it is us that make them. Yes it nice to have projects but never forget your core.

The release of the winter expansion has got me excited some of the changes are good some not so good.

Im even looking forward to the super changes if it actuallys stops people of crying about them and actually comming to a fight.
This could be ccp's last change to really save the game that has slowly deteriated since the launch of dominion with the final deteration with the walking in a room and aur thingy.

But good luck and please save this game...

A long time ago, I worked on a cattle station as a 17 year old jackeroo. My overseer didn't know his job, my manager didn't know his job and the owner was bloody hopeless.

At 20 I became the overseer. My jackeroos thought they could do my job better than me and I still believed I could do the job better than my manager and my owner.

At 24 I became the manager. My jackeroos and overseer still thought they could do my job. My boss was still an idiot.

I saved and saved and by the time I was 46 I owned the whole damned cattle station. Times were good. We employed men, their families and prospered.

Then we had a big drought, times got hard and I knew I had to let go some staff but couldn't. Well, you know, they had kids and you know, a mortgage down in the city.

The drought continued. I perservered. I used all my savings. I sold my cattle. I sold my house. I did everything I could.

One day the bank called and took it all away. My place got sold at 1/10 the value to some conservation group and they turned the whole bloody joint into a National Park.

Only thing left there now are emus and bloody kangaroos!

(EDIT: As releated to me by an oldtimer when he learned I went into business)

Ok so directing more resources to EVE development = good thing.

Firing your community team (e.g. CCP Fallout) = bad thing

Thought the entire point of the winter expansion was the fix many of the recent mistakes, firing the very people who did your damage control during the Incarna/Monaclegate debacle is a pretty ****** move.

Great job CCP... no, really... I've been playing since early '08, and Eve has been the most fascinating and frustrating game i have ever played. It is the most immersive, wonderful place to spend my time. I've also kept my mouth shut through exttremely long (i.e. 2day) downtimes (fortunatley a thing of the past) massively buggy updates, and installs, and largely worthless content.
My first issue is with the QA, the most recent patch introduced a major, some say game breaking, bug where certain windows resized and moved every time a pilot undocked. The QA team responded on the forums that they had seen this problem, but they couldnt get it to reproduce so they didnt do anything about it. Well over 100 pilots reported this bug within the first few hours after the patch was released... This isnt even the worst bug that has managed to work it's way onto Tranquility, only one of the most recent.
My second issue is content, first faction warfare, which seems to be defunct. As i understand it FW was released against the wishes of CCP Lead Game Designer Noah Ward. Then you introduced PI and Incursions, both of which fell like "things to do". Since early '08 the only "real" new ships you have introduced are the orca and the strategic cruisers, which seems odd considering Eve was always supposed to be about FLYING SHIPS. CQ... I dont even want to beat the dead horse on that debacle. I will say good job on all the hard work on the turrets and turret effects, though i wish you could have given missile launchers the same kind of love.
My final issue is CCP's continuing stance concerning certain "events" being organized by corps/alliances that target one playstyle group for systematic destruction. Please CCP, either violate the sanbox, and step in to stop these so called "events", or retain the sandbox, and give us a better ship to handle these "events". If any CSM, GM, DEV, would like clarification as to what im talking about, feel freel to convo me or send me an eve mail.
My final 2 cents and i'll shut up, I empathize for the hardworking good people that have recently lost their jobs, but i refuse to feel guilty. I was not a part of the Jita protest, nor was I attepting to roast people in the forums for mistakes that were made, I have quietly waited/prayed for the best. Hilmar, i know this will probably never reach your ears, but i have to say it anyway, I understand the neep to downsize a company occasionally, to make it grow in the future, but please also realize that some of the people that were recently terminated were respected and even loved by many many people. You have apologized for the recent lack of focus and communication,and i know that ours, the customers, and yours, the CEO's, visions of what Eve should be will always have differences. Its time to show us you meant it, please, Hilmar, restore our faith in Eve, assure us that the dark skies will be ours to fly for years to come.


In best hopes

It has been said many times before, DUST 514 and Twilight Online will flop shortly after launch.

Look at the current games market for:

- MMOs
- FPS console games

MMOs

They require light, easy and fluent engines to run on as engaging in combat or an action using Carbon, or what ever CQ is currently, will be the worst playing experience of any game anyone has ever played. The engine will not support any being able to engage in a fast paced, or even a 'medium' paced combat or action 'move' as they will just end up frying components of their computer. Besides the coding/software behind the game, the content will suck. YES, everyone loves vampires, YES Underworld had huge success with their releases but that's because THERE WAS A FILM IT FOLLOWED which was a huge success, solely because Kate Beckinsale was a star actor. Linky http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320691/

FPS Console Market

3 words ...................... Call Of Duty, another word ................. Battlefield.

These Games are so fast to be designed, coded, published, brought, played, completed that people just couldn't CARE about if the game has been in production for years, if the game is involved in an MMO that has space with l4z0rz. The CONSOLE market is far too fast paced to release a game that requires alot attention from someone who has just brought Battlefield 4 or 5 lol.

Call Of Duty has a release EVERY YEAR, this means, the involvement that CCP desires out of players will not be obtained because, the DUST player will; buy the game, play it, get bored, Activision will release Call Of Duty 40392 and they will be sidetracked and leave the world of DUST.

TL:DR

Both developments WILL FAIL, no 2 ways about it. Putting them off and eventually deleting them will be the best move an MMO company could possibly do.

Either create the game and release it within a year, to actually make money out of the fast paced world of games, otherwise you'll be left behind like the fat kid at school that everyone chose last for their running team.

I'm sorry but the idea that a CCP will concentrate on dust 514 and exclude WoD MMO sounds so strange. CCP have experience with MMO's and a lot of people have played WoD. As many people have said before, Dust is a PS3 only game! It's going to go down the pan within months! Console gamers don't do the long term thing. They simply don't. You should of made it pc only if anything. YOUR GOING TO BANKRUPT YOURSELVES CCP! DO YOU HEAR ME? Seriously, it's the worst business decision on the face of the planet.

I'm really sad to hear that it had to come to this. My thoughts and sympathies go out to those who have lost their jobs.

On the bright side, you'll probably be able to get another job soon due to your experience at CCP. :)

Also, waiting for CSM response. :P

Not very surprising at all, was a necessary decision from a business point of view.

Now let's hope CCP learned something from this, and let's hope the focus on FiS actually start to show ingame too. It'll take alot of efforts from CCP to win back trust, especially after lying to their customerbase, and the poor communication that's gone on now for years. But there's at least a sliver of hope that CCP will get their focus right, which is step one. We know we can't trust their words, but maybe we can trust their actions. That is, when/if they deliver, so far they havn't.

Best of luck to the staff that is losing their jobs, this is upper management issues, you guys did nothing wrong.

Still thinks that Dust 514 is the Rabbit Hole for CCP, I really really think its whats going to trounce CCP's finances into the ground. Will Eve Follow, I still think people are still hovering over the "Told you so" button.

I support this decision.

However, please put don't forget to update Incarna experience.
I don't know how DUST will turn out so I won't comment, but I want more avatar experience in EVE...

Afterall, don't just listen to "the community".
Steve Jobs said "A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."

My trust to you all.