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ISN - Incursion Shiny Network - Incursion Community

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Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#1 - 2012-11-12 12:18:28 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Noble Ranger , Kodavor and Bozl1n . Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communities that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems.

When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communities fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communities left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community. We still remain Vanguard focused but now have conquered all of the Incursions sites including many Kundulini sites . All of it was possible trough hard work and support of or pilots in the core .

How To Join


Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure.

ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders.

ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here.

If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature.


Requirements


The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below.

With maxed out OGB


Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank
Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank
T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%


Please note that we no longer have a public Mailing List for our Fittings due to various reasons .



ISN Management



Bozl1n
Noble Ranger
Kodavor
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-11-12 12:49:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Ronin
\o/

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear

Travis117
Valkyrie Consortium
No Visual.
#3 - 2012-11-12 13:51:47 UTC
Bump :D
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-11-12 18:51:46 UTC
will you run with HAMgus after the buff? just curious.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#5 - 2012-11-12 18:59:45 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
will you run with HAMgus after the buff? just curious.



Winter buff ? or the old buff ? HAMS are still so so . Legions / Vindis work for NCO's but that's about it for cruiser sizes ones .
Kado Kire
Nigerian Prince Recruitment InitiativeDOT
#6 - 2012-11-12 22:01:48 UTC
Is there a dps ship you prefer to run with? So if I were to start a new training plan up, which would be best?

And just to confirm, you list T3 cruisers; Tengus (HM or HAM) are unacceptable?
SkyMarshaller
SkyMarshaller Corp
#7 - 2012-11-12 22:16:38 UTC
Rather than simply give this thread a bump I thought it might be appropriate to give some feedback to people considering venturing into the world of “Incursions”.

As a 2+ year player I was starting to get a little jaded with missions etc & started to look around for something different. My thoughts turned to Incursions & after doing some research with my Dad (also a player), we decided to venture into this part of the game.

After more research (looking at forums, channels & talking to other players), I thought that ISN would be the best fit. What we particularly liked was the way they set standards for people seeking to join their fleets & the obviously “professional” manner in which they are organised. This observation was not (& still isn’t) first hand as I have not flown with any other fleets, but based purely on what was being said by them & about them.

A few weeks ago I joined my first fleet with ISN & have now participated in several fleets with them. I would like to join in more often, but time zone (Aussie player) & RL issues do create some difficulties. Once my Dad has finished training his Mach to ISN standards, we’ll probably fleet up more often (together I hope).

My initial impressions have proved entirely correct. ISN fleets are very well organised, FC’s are professional & the knowledge that the other fleet members around you are looking out for you (not just themselves) is very comforting. The fleets that I have been involved in have been very “tight” & sites have been run through very, very quickly. I really do like the contested sites, where we have “won” virtually every one of these.

In the very short time I’ve been involved with ISN I have come across some very friendly & knowledgeable players. I have learnt a lot & still have a lot more to learn.

I can thoroughly recommend ISN fleets to anyone who is prepared to meet their standards. ISN may seem exclusive or elitist to some, but I think they set high standards for good reason. You are flying in a fleet where they rely on you & you on them. Would you really want to trust your shiny ship to just any old group?

So if you want to make ISK from Incursions, then you will make lots with ISN. If you want to learn, you will learn lots & quickly (without being spoken down to). If you want to have fun, you’ll have that in bucket loads.
Yimodo
Emphebion Emperium
#8 - 2012-11-13 11:43:39 UTC
Kado Kire wrote:
Is there a dps ship you prefer to run with? So if I were to start a new training plan up, which would be best?

And just to confirm, you list T3 cruisers; Tengus (HM or HAM) are unacceptable?


For T3 cruisers we use Loki's this because of the webbonus they provide. We dont use missile ships because of the lower dps they bring. This dps loss is mainly because of lost missiles because stuff can die when missiles are in mid flyed.

For BS the Mach is the most used ship (keep in mind we also have fleets where we have more Nightmares or even Vindi's) but the Mach is the most versitial ship because of the tracking and fall off from the guns it uses.

I hope this clears up the questions you have, you can always join "ISN Secondary" if you have more questions there, mostly there are people there that are willing to awnser you questions.


ISN - Incursion Shiny Network      Public channel: ISN Secondary

Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-11-13 17:37:39 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
will you run with HAMgus after the buff? just curious.



Winter buff ? or the old buff ? HAMS are still so so . Legions / Vindis work for NCO's but that's about it for cruiser sizes ones .


what's the 'old' buff? the buff i mean are the upcoming winter changes, in particular the huge buff to explosion radius for HAMs. if my pyfu is right, you will be able to have <60m explosion radius while projecting 800+ dps to ~45k come winter. paired with the tengu's generous mid slots, this might make it competitive with the loki, with or without web bonus. then again, i have no vanguard experience, that's why i'm asking.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-11-13 17:43:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Ronin
Daniel Plain wrote:
Kodavor wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
will you run with HAMgus after the buff? just curious.



Winter buff ? or the old buff ? HAMS are still so so . Legions / Vindis work for NCO's but that's about it for cruiser sizes ones .


what's the 'old' buff? the buff i mean are the upcoming winter changes, in particular the huge buff to explosion radius for HAMs. if my pyfu is right, you will be able to have <60m explosion radius while projecting 800+ dps to ~45k come winter. paired with the tengu's generous mid slots, this might make it competitive with the loki, with or without web bonus. then again, i have no vanguard experience, that's why i'm asking.



The main difference between Missiles and Turrets is that Turrets project instant damage which is vital in some contest's, the only site i can see it hardly making a difference depending how many you field is HQ's

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#11 - 2012-11-13 18:04:43 UTC
So no T2 BS? Only pirate faction?

I would have thought a Paladin or Vargur would be acceptable if fit properly?
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#12 - 2012-11-13 18:22:06 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
So no T2 BS? Only pirate faction?

I would have thought a Paladin or Vargur would be acceptable if fit properly?


Definately %) .
BlackPyroStorm
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-11-14 11:27:55 UTC  |  Edited by: BlackPyroStorm
Marauder do get used but are less effective in vangards compared with pirate bs due to their low scan res which is quite important for inevitable contests.

I've yet to come across a shield paladin, I've thought about it personally but having only 4 mids, 1 being for tank, 2for webs (might as well use that bonus after all), that would leave only 1 for a sebo and sacrificing any lows for signal amps diminishes potential dps output, using the subcontroller would lower the shield hp on what would be a very tight fit. Ofc if fitted right paladin would be useful in hq (tractor beam bonus).
Kronos would also suffer to the same issues as the paladin for usefulness.
The Paladin/Kronos would most likely be used Tach/Rail fitted.

Vargur are used but that majority of people that have used them do move onto getting themselves into a machariel once capable.
And golem is.. just meh (missiles)
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#14 - 2012-11-14 16:37:28 UTC
BlackPyroStorm wrote:
Marauder do get used but are less effective in vangards compared with pirate bs due to their low scan res which is quite important for inevitable contests.

I've yet to come across a shield paladin, I've thought about it personally but having only 4 mids, 1 being for tank, 2for webs (might as well use that bonus after all), that would leave only 1 for a sebo and sacrificing any lows for signal amps diminishes potential dps output, using the subcontroller would lower the shield hp on what would be a very tight fit. Ofc if fitted right paladin would be useful in hq (tractor beam bonus).
Kronos would also suffer to the same issues as the paladin for usefulness.
The Paladin/Kronos would most likely be used Tach/Rail fitted.

Vargur are used but that majority of people that have used them do move onto getting themselves into a machariel once capable.
And golem is.. just meh (missiles)


Thank you for the detailed information %)
Brian Leetch
McCloister Limited
#15 - 2012-11-15 01:33:55 UTC
Are there any decent sources of information one should consult before attempting to run these sites or will a FC explain everything that must happen before going into a site (kill order, etc.)? I'm interested in trying an incursion out but would like to be better informed before joining a fleet.

I've never flown logistics before but have skilled it up during a hiatus. Can anyone give any advice on where to gain experience with logi before entering an incursion and is it fairly easy to get the hang of?
Maraudian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-11-15 01:48:33 UTC
Brian Leetch wrote:
Are there any decent sources of information one should consult before attempting to run these sites or will a FC explain everything that must happen before going into a site (kill order, etc.)? I'm interested in trying an incursion out but would like to be better informed before joining a fleet.

I've never flown logistics before but have skilled it up during a hiatus. Can anyone give any advice on where to gain experience with logi before entering an incursion and is it fairly easy to get the hang of?


http://incursionguide.wordpress.com/

^ The above can provide some basic information but somewhat outdated about Incursions. Its really about common sense and being able to listen and follow commands from the FC at crucial moments. An hour, give or take based on your ability to process, and it will become like clockwork. As some Incursion pilots say, its basically "rinse and repeat."
Bozl1n
Shiva
Northern Coalition.
#17 - 2012-11-15 02:44:28 UTC
SkyMarshaller wrote:
Rather than simply give this thread a bump I thought it might be appropriate to give some feedback to people considering venturing into the world of “Incursions”.

As a 2+ year player I was starting to get a little jaded with missions etc & started to look around for something different. My thoughts turned to Incursions & after doing some research with my Dad (also a player), we decided to venture into this part of the game.

After more research (looking at forums, channels & talking to other players), I thought that ISN would be the best fit. What we particularly liked was the way they set standards for people seeking to join their fleets & the obviously “professional” manner in which they are organised. This observation was not (& still isn’t) first hand as I have not flown with any other fleets, but based purely on what was being said by them & about them.

A few weeks ago I joined my first fleet with ISN & have now participated in several fleets with them. I would like to join in more often, but time zone (Aussie player) & RL issues do create some difficulties. Once my Dad has finished training his Mach to ISN standards, we’ll probably fleet up more often (together I hope).

My initial impressions have proved entirely correct. ISN fleets are very well organised, FC’s are professional & the knowledge that the other fleet members around you are looking out for you (not just themselves) is very comforting. The fleets that I have been involved in have been very “tight” & sites have been run through very, very quickly. I really do like the contested sites, where we have “won” virtually every one of these.

In the very short time I’ve been involved with ISN I have come across some very friendly & knowledgeable players. I have learnt a lot & still have a lot more to learn.

I can thoroughly recommend ISN fleets to anyone who is prepared to meet their standards. ISN may seem exclusive or elitist to some, but I think they set high standards for good reason. You are flying in a fleet where they rely on you & you on them. Would you really want to trust your shiny ship to just any old group?

So if you want to make ISK from Incursions, then you will make lots with ISN. If you want to learn, you will learn lots & quickly (without being spoken down to). If you want to have fun, you’ll have that in bucket loads.


Thanks for your feedback on the first page of our new shinny thread.

Look forward to seing you and your dad in fleet soon.

o7

kharli
First We Feed
Seker Matar
#18 - 2012-11-15 05:18:58 UTC
as an old git returning after a longish break and finding my old corp long gone i found myself randomly passing an incursion . Thinking ive done just about everything else i thought wth so i posted my pvp scimi fit in the incursion channel only to get a mail from isn to join the secondary channel . Tbh as an old pirate i thought they were a fraud sucking in new players with shiny fits who would ..er accidently pop.... How wrong i was (its only cos its the sorta thing my old corp would think up and we used to hi sec gank ) A more helpful bunch would be hard to find I take my hat off to the management for creating an isk earning community where background is not important just that you get on comms post fit and listen.
I now dip in and out as i please Theres no pressure at all . Obviously they want the community larger so more gangs can be run more continuously.
Ive seen some people moan about the fits there asked but now ive flown with them i realize its to keep your ship alive whatever happens
The only pops ive seen are leeeroys and afk wandering and even if they say tough in my experience people have given a few isk to get you back on your feet
Logix42
Taxation Damnation
#19 - 2012-11-15 05:24:27 UTC
Been flying incursions for a little of a month now and bounced around between all the shield communities to try them out. ISN is home for me now until that someday in the future when I disappear down a wormhole. They are efficient, fun, and friendly group so I can't ask for anything more. Please come join us, make money, and have fun murdering all the Sansha we can lay our hands on.

Fly Safe
Logix42

Go beyond the edge of space... Explore

Cyber Broneher
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-11-15 08:40:21 UTC
VG in 4 minutes? It's easy!
PS# \o/ more pew pew \o/
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