Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes, the BPO will be seeded from ORE as usual. We trust players will quickly buy and manufacture them to make a profit with Retribution.

Also, it is always delicious to have a few of these blueprints fall to gate camps when trying to smuggle them back to trade hubs .

I can answer this question based on current Buckingham build:

Volume: 29500 m3
Velume (packaged): 2500 m3
Size/Radius: 41 m

Here you have a complete datadump from build 446218: http://pozniak.pl/explorer/

Hello folks,

This topic is about the ORE frigate coming out this winter. While its concept art can be seen in the Ship Balancing Summer Update blog and some speculation has already started, time has come to talk about it in details.

Designed as an entry mining ship, it will replace the old 4 mining frigates in the Industry Career Path (the Tormentor, Bantam, Navitas and Burst). Compared to them, it has a much improved mining output, capacitor reliance and mobility, while having a decent 5000m3 ore hold. Its purpose is to be a fast hull capable of mining in hostile space (even if the current value of high-sec ores defeats this quite a bit, but that's another problem). It also serves as a gas harvester, a profession that was lacking love until now. With its +2 warp core strength bonus, it should stand a fair chance of doing its job in low-security space without being instantly tackled and killed.

It also comes with a brand new skill, mining frigate, rank 2. Further down the drain we will change mining barge skill requirements to need mining frigate at 4, but not for winter - we'll most likely do that at the same time as the Destroyer and Battlecruiser skill changes to minimize training issues and complications. Again, since its the entry ship for mining, expect the market price to be low.


Mining frigate skill bonuses:
+5% to mining yield per level
5% to gas harvesting duration reduction per level
Role bonuses:
+100% to mining yield
+100% to gas harvesting yield
+ 2 warp core stabilizer bonus
Slot layout: 3 H, 3 M, 1 L, 2 turrets
Fittings: 45 PWG, 240 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 225 / 175 / 200
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 250 / 125s / 2
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 335 / 3.6 / 1200000 / 4.04s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 10 / 10
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 15km / 750 / 5
Sensor strength: 4 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 40
Cargo capacity: 50
Ore hold: 5000


Constructive comments are welcome

really dumb question: Does the harvested gas go in the ore hold?

What CCP needs to understand is that this ship as it is currently thought through is a let down for those of us that heard "gas cloud bonused harvester" What we expected was something better than out current 5 tech II gas harvestors on our cane with 3K of hold. If you have ever sat in a WH taking down a cloud of C540 you will understand why we want something that does more than 100m3 of gas in a cycle.

CCP you missed the boat...literally, since this one is not any better then at least give me a gas cloud strip miner for my mining barges.. give me something that acutally is bonused to improve the speed of harvesting beyond a combat ship pressed into the role of gas miner. It is truely sad that combat ships are the best and fastest gas harvestors around. They are even better when you also realize you can put a mining link on them than this little frigate, which I was looking forward to.

Ore hold.... ore hold should allow gas in all ships, and gas should be able to be compressed in my rorq. Ok, so C540 is really the top of the concern there, but it would be nice.

From a WH industrialist.

And yes, folks, despite its name, gas is automatically harvested into the Ore hold. Wanted to file a bug report to CCP Tuxford in case it didn't, but he was quite clever and implemented that ahead of time during the mining barge changes Clever girl.

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.