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Solo mining.

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Dave stark
#21 - 2012-11-10 21:39:34 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.


feel free to disagree.

we're talking about solo mining, read the thread title.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-11-10 21:57:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Frostys Virpio
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.



Using 3 account is the new soloing.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2012-11-10 22:17:39 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.


feel free to disagree.

we're talking about solo mining, read the thread title.


It's still just me and me only (physically...as in Real Life).

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#24 - 2012-11-10 22:18:36 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.



Using 3 account is the new soloing.


I highlly doubt I am the first in the past entire decade.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-11-10 22:24:26 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Morikar wrote:
Welcome back to Eve :)

Mining barges got the changes listed by other people, but something else you should be warned about with mining now is that there are a lot of players bumping miners around. Basically they fit a Stabber or other faster cruiser with a MWD and approach your barge at full speed. The force of the impact knocks your barge 20-30km away from the roid, which deactivates your mining lasers since they are out of range.

This apparently isn't an exploit, but it's annoying as hell.

Supposedly your can mostly negate the bumpers if you orbit the roid you are mining instead of sitting still, but that ruins your alignment if you stay aligned to a station like we used to do so you could warp off faster in the event of a problem.

You can still do that. Make 4 bookmarks a goodly distance away from the belt. One to the north, one east, one west, one south. Now "circle" the roid by aligning to each in turn. You will be doing a square loop about the roid, and most of the time be at warp speed in case of trouble.

Has anyone tried using a skiff or procurer to avoid the bumpers? They got a higher top speed.

Pretty easy to fool a bumper when mining in a skiff.............
Dave stark
#26 - 2012-11-10 22:44:08 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.


feel free to disagree.

we're talking about solo mining, read the thread title.


It's still just me and me only (physically...as in Real Life).


this is to solo mining what sex is to masturbating.
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#27 - 2012-11-11 08:12:41 UTC
*chuckle*

There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly

Kuro Bon
Test Corp 123
#28 - 2012-11-12 02:17:34 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
With a retriever you can make around 19M isk/hour with descent skills and mining drones II. Total ship/fitting cost will be under 50M isk.

A mackinaw will yield you an additional 1M - 1.5M isk/hour, but will also cost you 190M isk, and also makes you a target for ganking attempts, while the retriever isn't worth ganking.


500M ISK costs about $15US via PLEX sales. The above figures represent an hourly mining return of $0.60US per hour. Why would you mine instead of just buying ISK? (getting a job if necessary)

I don't like that CCP sells ISK, as I think it broke the game. But since they do, this seems like the only reasonable way.

Protip: 100M ISK per hour is about $3US an hour.

Max Wager
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-11-13 21:02:01 UTC
Kuro Bon wrote:
Styth spiting wrote:
With a retriever you can make around 19M isk/hour with descent skills and mining drones II. Total ship/fitting cost will be under 50M isk.

A mackinaw will yield you an additional 1M - 1.5M isk/hour, but will also cost you 190M isk, and also makes you a target for ganking attempts, while the retriever isn't worth ganking.


500M ISK costs about $15US via PLEX sales. The above figures represent an hourly mining return of $0.60US per hour. Why would you mine instead of just buying ISK? (getting a job if necessary)

I don't like that CCP sells ISK, as I think it broke the game. But since they do, this seems like the only reasonable way.


While I agree with you that mining is a huge waste of time relative to other activities, one of my friends has made quite a bit of isk mining solo while doing other things. For instance, he's been hugely addicted to Dark Souls lately so he mines on one monitor and plays Dark Souls on the other. His steam account says he has played 200 hours of Dark Souls, so at 19m/hour (he does have good skills as far as I know) he's made 3.8b isk mining while playing another game.

As for buying Plex, why do anything in EVE when having a minimum wage job is a more efficient way of farming isk than playing the game?
Dave stark
#30 - 2012-11-13 21:20:51 UTC
Max Wager wrote:
As for buying Plex, why do anything in EVE when having a minimum wage job is a more efficient way of farming isk than playing the game?


if only i could pay my rent with isk....
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#31 - 2012-11-13 22:54:48 UTC
Kuro Bon wrote:


500M ISK costs about $15US via PLEX sales. The above figures represent an hourly mining return of $0.60US per hour. Why would you mine instead of just buying ISK? (getting a job if necessary)

I don't like that CCP sells ISK, as I think it broke the game. But since they do, this seems like the only reasonable way.


King of the Modern Self-Entitled Generation.

Pathetic. Everything must be "now, Now, NOW, NOW!!!!!".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-11-13 22:59:57 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.



1 person behind three accounts does not constitute solo mining. He was, obviously, referring to mining in a single hulk with nothing else.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#33 - 2012-11-13 23:01:36 UTC
Max Wager wrote:


While I agree with you that mining is a huge waste of time relative to other activities, one of my friends has made quite a bit of isk mining solo while doing other things.



For me, if one is not fully engaged in EVE, you may as well be AFK. Besides, with the necessity of having to either fly back to empty cargo or dump into an Orca, AND switch rocks, and the list goes on, I highly doubt he was doing the other game without issues. Too distracting. I doubt he would notice a gank coming in time to flee to station in EVE.

TBH, your 'friend' probably doesn't play either game well at that point. I'd rather play one game well than be horrible at 2.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Dave stark
#34 - 2012-11-13 23:02:48 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Max Wager wrote:


While I agree with you that mining is a huge waste of time relative to other activities, one of my friends has made quite a bit of isk mining solo while doing other things.



For me, if one is not fully engaged in EVE, you may as well be AFK. Besides, with the necessity of having to either fly back to empty cargo or dump into an Orca, AND switch rocks, and the list goes on, I highly doubt he was doing the other game without issues. Too distracting. I doubt he would notice a gank coming in time to flee to station in EVE.

TBH, your 'friend' probably doesn't play either game well at that point. I'd rather play one game well than be horrible at 2.


nobody ganks exhumers any more.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#35 - 2012-11-13 23:04:03 UTC
Dorian Wylde wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.



1 person behind three accounts does not constitute solo mining. He was, obviously, referring to mining in a single hulk with nothing else.



Welp, we all have different ways of looking at things. (Otherwise we'd be living in a hive-minded dictatorship.)

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#36 - 2012-11-13 23:05:19 UTC
Dave stark wrote:


nobody ganks exhumers any more.



Now the stupidity factor has kicked in. Troll.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Dave stark
#37 - 2012-11-14 01:24:03 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:


nobody ganks exhumers any more.



Now the stupidity factor has kicked in. Troll.


since the barge buff, it's largely true.

simply isn't profitable any more, they bump them instead. have you not seen all the crying about bumpers rather than gankers lately?
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-11-14 02:20:03 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.


then your not solo mining.
Aeydan Condit
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-11-14 05:47:18 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
get rid of the hulk, get a mackinaw.

if you're solo mining there's 0 reason to be in a hulk other than stupidity.



My '2 Hulks and an Orca' and my Wallet Balance highly disagree.


obviously you missed the "solo mining" part. Two hulks and an orca is NOT solo mining.
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#40 - 2012-11-14 15:00:06 UTC
Max Wager wrote:


While I agree with you that mining is a huge waste of time relative to other activities, one of my friends has made quite a bit of isk mining solo while doing other things. For instance, he's been hugely addicted to Dark Souls lately so he mines on one monitor and plays Dark Souls on the other. His steam account says he has played 200 hours of Dark Souls, so at 19m/hour (he does have good skills as far as I know) he's made 3.8b isk mining while playing another game.

As for buying Plex, why do anything in EVE when having a minimum wage job is a more efficient way of farming isk than playing the game?


Anyone who wonders why bumpers exist.... this.

www.minerbumping.com

Bing Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com

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