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Markets 101 (Must read because retards are driving prices down)

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piecakes's brother
Assasinated Zombies
#1 - 2012-11-11 23:30:34 UTC  |  Edited by: piecakes's brother
Here we go.

The market is with out a doubt is the best way to make is in eve. Even better is when new patches are annouced by ccp with redone specs for ships i.e frigs and crusier with new patch. So when the new patch hits and ships are improved they become more expensive do to better roles and useablity... So best thing to do is bring the cost of ship up before hand to help maximize the isk. for example. Crusier A right now going for 7 mil. If you buy all of those crusier and set the price at 15 mil. accounting for competetion bring price down when patch hits you can look at price of 12 mil +patch increase.. You could see prices as high as 17-20mil based off improvements. If you are on ground floor buying or making ships for 6-7mil you have just increased your profit margin by a lot. This works well in the Market hubs ie Jita, Amarr, Rens, Dodixie as they will deside regional price.

Now that a general explanation of how to use a patch/ make isk on market... Why the Fu ck on earth do retards come in and undercut 10 different orders for ships at 15 mil a pop and undercut them by 4-5 million... WTF retards you want to keep the price high... If even you dont sell **** in a month when the buy orders are 12-13 you are still gonna be making more than you ever would.
Undercut me fine... but why undercut by 4-5mil and drive value down...

So look if you are a ********... and undercut a 15mil ship by 4-5mil you are driving profits down for not only yourself but everyone. If you keep it high, buy prices will increase... Am I the only one that understands supply and demand?


how can people be so ******* dumb is beyond me....

Oh and if you dont believe me... **** It worked for retrievers when last patch hit... despite some tards driving down price... We could have had them hit 30 mil instead of 20 mil but people are ****** and like to under cut by millions erg face palm.
Reticle
Sight Picture
#2 - 2012-11-11 23:57:43 UTC
had you considered the possibility that a competitor has targeted you and is trying to price you out of the market?

No, you haven't. Good luck though, cause this thread is going to get flaaaaaaamed.
Kaltar Re
Ommare Asteroid Removal and Recycling
#3 - 2012-11-11 23:59:13 UTC
Or you could view it as an opportunity to pad your profits. If the ships will cost an estimated 30 Million to produce after the patch, and you see someone selling them for 15 Million or 20 million, then go buy them up and sit on them until after the change so you can resell them for a profit. The other person either isn't keeping informed about upcoming changes (and the effect they will have on prices) or they are desperate to get some cash now. Either way you make a profit, so it's all good.
piecakes's brother
Assasinated Zombies
#4 - 2012-11-12 00:09:16 UTC  |  Edited by: piecakes's brother
Kaltar Re wrote:
Or you could view it as an opportunity to pad your profits. If the ships will cost an estimated 30 Million to produce after the patch, and you see someone selling them for 15 Million or 20 million, then go buy them up and sit on them until after the change so you can resell them for a profit. The other person either isn't keeping informed about upcoming changes (and the effect they will have on prices) or they are desperate to get some cash now. Either way you make a profit, so it's all good.



I agree with you 100% but... I just dont understnad how people can not see make a dollar tomorrow or a dime today... oh well I have manage to soley bring the cost(tobuy not make) up of 2 crusiers by 3-4 mil isk already and once patch hit i expect more...plus I have time in between now and then i might be able to squeeze another few millon in on each
piecakes's brother
Assasinated Zombies
#5 - 2012-11-12 00:12:58 UTC  |  Edited by: piecakes's brother
Reticle wrote:
had you considered the possibility that a competitor has targeted you and is trying to price you out of the market?

No, you haven't. Good luck though, cause this thread is going to get flaaaaaaamed.



Honestly this make no sense... I honestly dont care if a single ships sells the main point of increasing the price is this... buy orders increasing... keep the price hiked up for a week or 2 and buy orders will shoot through the roof....

squeeze me out the market fine.. make a dime off each instead of a dollar... That is ******* Smart....my point exactly and you cant squeeze people out... when you can adjust price by pennies....


Thats the dam problem you damn communist/socialist from europe dont know ho to work a free market Bring the cost of things down but bring down profits
Kaltar Re
Ommare Asteroid Removal and Recycling
#6 - 2012-11-12 00:28:24 UTC
piecakes's brother wrote:
I agree with you 100% but... I just dont understnad how people can not see make a dollar tomorrow or a dime today... oh well I have manage to soley bring the cost(tobuy not make) up of 2 crusiers by 3-4 mil isk already and once patch hit i expect more...plus I have time in between now and then i might be able to squeeze another few millon in on each

Well, some people don't bother to follow the dev blogs or even the forums to realise what exactly is in the upcoming expansion. Others need cash now (to buy plex to keep their account open, replace a ship that got blown up, hire some cosmic "professionals", etc.) I gave up worrying about why people do these things.

Just today I saw people posting millions of rounds of Hybrid Charges at as much as 10% below the cost to make them at perfect ME. They would have made more to just take the minerals used to make the charges and sell those. But yet there were easily over a dozen orders for maybe 20 Million rounds of the one ammunition I was pricing for sale at below the cost to manufacture in Jita.

If people want to sell me something for less than the cost to make it, I will be happy to subsidize their stupidity. :)
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#7 - 2012-11-12 00:43:53 UTC
2004 called, they want their issue back.

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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2012-11-12 01:16:10 UTC
Hi,

I understand you're passionate about this, but if you want to create a valid discussion, please do so with without Ranting, casting aspersions and using profanity.

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