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Another nail in the coffin for Dust?

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#41 - 2012-11-10 08:33:05 UTC
Is this another laptops are killing desktops, consoles are killing laptops, tablets are killing consoles type argument?

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-11-10 12:09:12 UTC
This is CNN we're talking about, right? Have you read the editor's notes?

"Since 2005, Blake Snow has covered video games and other male-interest topics..."

"...male-interest topics..."

Anyone that writes about "male-interest topics" and calls it that doesn't know what they're talking about. ESPECIALLY if they specialise in that.

"...gamers' tastes have evolved to include quick, bite-size gaming sessions..."

This is bulldust - spend five minutes on the Halo Waypoint forums to see how many people spend their whole lives playing the game and doing nothing else. What about Mass Effect 3? How many people finished it inside the first 24 hours? You'd actually have to play it for the ENTIRE 24 hours (or near to it) to finish it in that time.

I don't know where this guy's getting his numbers from... or his information, but this DFC Intelligence group is clueless.

"I don't honestly think that someone who didn't want a 2-D platformer 20 years ago is going to wake up today and buy it on XBLA."

That's where they're very wrong. Retro games have been making a huge comeback in the last decade or so. As a part of a retro gaming community, I can tell you straight up, it ain't small. I've got all the Sonics on XBL EXCEPT the 3D ones (which were all **** - the 2D ones are way better). Original Mario on an original 8-bit NES... I've still never been able to clock that. I don't try as much as I used to, but every now and again I give it another crack. I must be the only retro gamer I know that hasn't been able to beat the original Mario, but even the rest will admit that original Mario was HARD!!! And games today... they're easy, boring, no challenge. There are a few very epic exceptions, but if anything's causing a slump in gaming, it's that so many new releases are being rushed to a deadline for the sake of making money and there's no LOVE in games anymore.

Lots of CGI and special effects - but I tell you what, if they put more of their attention into making a game play well, with a story that works, and less attention into the sound and graphics, I would buy that game. A great example is Ace Combat, which was a PS1 original, continued onto PS2 - it's an arcade flight combat game with a pseudo-simulation feel to it. The stories in those games used to be something REALLY special - but when it came to Xbox from PS2 in the form of Ace Combat 6, it was a storyline disaster. It was short, easy, and empty of any kind of passion. Assault Horizon tried to mend that, and it came close, it came damn close, so I have a little hope that they're mending their ways over there at Bandai.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-11-10 12:12:51 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/tech/gaming-gadgets/console-gaming-dead/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

If console gaming is dying, and Dust is exclusive to PS3 Console, do we have a problem?



"Since 2005, Blake Snow has covered video games and other male-interest topics for some of the biggest names in journalism."

Stopped reading at the first sentence. Roll


You noticed this too, huh?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-11-10 12:32:45 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/tech/gaming-gadgets/console-gaming-dead/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

If console gaming is dying, and Dust is exclusive to PS3 Console, do we have a problem?



"We" don't. Consoles as you know them are migrating from something "exclusive" catering specifics to something "collective". They have no other choice and if they choose to die this only means those putting money on those projects will or already lost money and effort when this could be avoided by using larger platforms like PC. That's not much of an issue for CCP to bring DUST514 on PC version other than those commercial contracts.

Everything that is restrictive to a single method/population/style/whatever is already dead at birth, takes a couple years to change or transform for something more intelligent meeting large collective needs instead of specifics.

There was once this guy working on some garage project, he thought about "collective" about "simple" and left alone those thinking selfish/elite Pro.
This guy became one of the most important fortunes on earth with his idea at the point he could buy entire countries.
A real pioneer on how to think about collective needs rather than pseudo elitist/specific markets. This guy is simply one of the 20th century genius that helped or shaped at some point our life and our future.

[Insert Name]

Mister __________, I salute you. Blink

brb

Generals4
#45 - 2012-11-10 13:34:27 UTC
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
EvE is dying since 2003.

I am sure DUST 514 is dying since 2012 Blink


Actually since Dust 514 is linked to EVE it has been dying since 2003 too!

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#46 - 2012-11-10 14:21:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Consoles are fine, however everyone know games on consoles are specific, in general games on concoles offer more instant fun but for shor period, games on PC are a much better for long therm, PC games offers better grafic, more polished engines code, more flexibility, better game play, game content, support multiple hardware like mouses, keyboars etc, also PC platform got a lot cheap and good games than consoles.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#47 - 2012-11-10 14:48:38 UTC
ISD TYPE40 wrote:
The main bulk of that article is saying that dedicated consoles are not doing as well as they used to, which is hardly a surprise to most people and, in the specific case of the Sony Playstation series of consoles, has been carefully considered and taken in to account since before the development of the PS3.

The article also makes note of many things that any respectable forward thinking company has known about, and planned around for at least the last 5 years, that more social interaction, ease of use and game prices are all factors to be looked at carefully. In the case of DUST 514, not only does it have something unique to appeal to people, but it is a free to play micro-transaction based game, which as the author of that article points out is a big draw of things like Farmville etc.

In short, I see no reason for CCP to be in anyway concerned about the future of either consoles themselves, nor of DUST 514 as a product. As they know very well, things change, but that does not mean they fade away.


Oh so CCP made perfect venture ? Nice. many games was a fail but as I can see you guys HACKed "the system" good to know ! but seriously. All ppl in game dev industry knows that game is not existing before launch, all you can do is sit and wait. After launch it will be clear if game failed or not.
Blind Phew
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-11-10 15:51:27 UTC
I bought a PS3, I dunno 3 or 4 years ago or whenever. I bought it for the main reason of the Blue Ray Player and gaming as Secondary. My wife played 1 game on it the first week we had it and nothing since. Now it's for movies and Netflix.

Real Gaming is on PC's...
Ryhss
#49 - 2012-11-10 15:56:02 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/tech/gaming-gadgets/console-gaming-dead/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

If console gaming is dying, and Dust is exclusive to PS3 Console, do we have a problem?


I hope so. DUST is a waste of time.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"

Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#50 - 2012-11-10 17:56:31 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Consoles are fine, however everyone know games on consoles are specific, in general games on consoles offer more instant fun but for short period, games on PC are a much better for long term, PC games offers better graphic, more polished engines code, more flexibility, better game play, game content, support multiple hardware like mouse, keyboard etc, also PC platform got a lot cheap and good games than consoles.


Sounds good. (translated from amerikan to English) Lol

Empire, the next new world order.

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#51 - 2012-11-10 18:10:30 UTC
Come back when Sourcefed does a review. If they are hating on it, I will worry.

CNN is like Grandpa yelling at the kids to turn the music down.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-11-11 04:23:06 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/tech/gaming-gadgets/console-gaming-dead/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

If console gaming is dying, and Dust is exclusive to PS3 Console, do we have a problem?



Console gaming is dying in the exact same fashion that PC gaming has been dying over the last 10 years. Which is to say it isn't.

Dust is going to suck because it's bad and console gamers especially their FPS players jump from release to release almost as they drop.

Meanwhile there are still active CSS 1.6 servers running on the PC.
Ryhss
#53 - 2012-11-11 05:01:32 UTC
For crying out loud people. No where does it say DUST is dying. The popularity of console gaming is. Jebus people, read.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-11-11 05:17:03 UTC
DUST IS DYING
EVE IS DYING
GOONS ARE DYING
CONSOLE IS DYING
PC IS DYING
MOBILE IS DYING
TABLET IS DYING
YOU ARE DYING
I AM DYING
THE WORLD IS DYING

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#55 - 2012-11-11 06:21:03 UTC
FFS, this thread is still going? All over one dumb news story I came across?
Evidence is mounting that Eve is dead, based on the behavior on GD!


And consoles are the board games of the 70's.......Lol


Signature removed - CCP Eterne

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#56 - 2012-11-11 06:30:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Gerard
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
DUST IS DYING
EVE IS DYING
GOONS ARE DYING
CONSOLE IS DYING
PC IS DYING
MOBILE IS DYING
TABLET IS DYING
YOU ARE DYING
I AM DYING
THE WORLD IS DYING

Now with 100% less Troll.

Ranzabar
Doomheim
#57 - 2012-11-11 06:58:52 UTC
CNN is dying

Abide

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