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Everybody is doing freighter ganks in High Sec now ...

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Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
#261 - 2012-11-10 16:51:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulous Rod
baltec1 wrote:
Opertone wrote:
damm, 1 low slot for a DC II (damage control, freighters have a lot of structure)

It will make ganking a lot harder.

60 CPU and one low slot and one powergrid, CCP it is not much


And why should ganking be made even harder yet again?


wait, weren't you saying it would be easier a month ago?

oh, baltec1...right.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#262 - 2012-11-10 16:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Sentamon wrote:
Yes, I'm glad you agree. Break up the zergs and you'll see activity in Null like never before.
No. Break up the “zergs” and the activity remains the same, because there will still be no reason to be out there and the useless system will still be empty for the simple reason that they are still useless.

If anything, breaking up the blue lists would only reduce the amount of people out there since there would be no buffers for the few things you might want to do.
Newsflash
Doomheim
#263 - 2012-11-10 17:02:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Newsflash
if freighter suicideganking ever gets nerfed i need lots of popcorn and beverages to read and laugh to huge rage gankers will fill this forum. Lol and yea ganking has got out of hand currently.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#264 - 2012-11-10 17:07:36 UTC
Newsflash wrote:
yea ganking has got out of hand currently.
How can something as exceedingly rare and easily avoidable as a gank be “out of hand”? Ugh

What else is out of hand by that measure? Highsec gate rats? Faction spawns in .7 belts? Jita running low on trit?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#265 - 2012-11-10 17:13:23 UTC
Newsflash wrote:
if freighter suicideganking ever gets nerfed

What do you mean, if? Haven't you caught on to what'll happen when retribution hits on dec 4th?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Newsflash
Doomheim
#266 - 2012-11-10 17:25:29 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Newsflash wrote:
if freighter suicideganking ever gets nerfed

What do you mean, if? Haven't you caught on to what'll happen when retribution hits on dec 4th?


i havent been playing or paid much attention for awhile. just seen lots freighter ganks in kb. so they doing something about it?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#267 - 2012-11-10 17:28:24 UTC
Newsflash wrote:
i havent been playing or paid much attention for awhile. just seen lots freighter ganks in kb.
If you've seen lots of them, you have indeed not paid much attention. It's all forum hype and very little KB action.
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#268 - 2012-11-10 17:46:25 UTC
I heard Concord will add logi ships on g8s in HS in a few patches. Those logi concord ships will rep the agressed ships while the other concord combat ships will take care of the agressors. Should fix the issue.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#269 - 2012-11-10 18:03:58 UTC
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
I heard Concord will add logi ships on g8s in HS in a few patches.
Lol Humour.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#270 - 2012-11-10 19:41:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Opertone wrote:
damm, 1 low slot for a DC II (damage control, freighters have a lot of structure)

It will make ganking a lot harder.

60 CPU and one low slot and one powergrid, CCP it is not much

Doesn't work when you autopilot.

Also, Expanded Cargohold II. Lets you reduce your tank and cram even more billions in that freighter Shocked

Instead, just ask CCP to give the freighter structure DCII resists just as part of the hull. That way you can't accidentally expand it's cargo and you no longer have to turn on the module.

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Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#271 - 2012-11-10 21:19:58 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
I heard Concord will add logi ships on g8s in HS in a few patches.
Lol Humour.


Glad I made you laugh! Smile
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#272 - 2012-11-10 21:23:33 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Opertone wrote:
damm, 1 low slot for a DC II (damage control, freighters have a lot of structure)

It will make ganking a lot harder.

60 CPU and one low slot and one powergrid, CCP it is not much

Doesn't work when you autopilot.

Also, Expanded Cargohold II. Lets you reduce your tank and cram even more billions in that freighter Shocked

Instead, just ask CCP to give the freighter structure DCII resists just as part of the hull. That way you can't accidentally expand it's cargo and you no longer have to turn on the module.


People would ***** about having the equivalent of a low slot module without having the choice to put the one they want.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#273 - 2012-11-10 21:36:06 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Opertone wrote:
damm, 1 low slot for a DC II (damage control, freighters have a lot of structure)

It will make ganking a lot harder.

60 CPU and one low slot and one powergrid, CCP it is not much

Doesn't work when you autopilot.

Also, Expanded Cargohold II. Lets you reduce your tank and cram even more billions in that freighter Shocked

Instead, just ask CCP to give the freighter structure DCII resists just as part of the hull. That way you can't accidentally expand it's cargo and you no longer have to turn on the module.

People would ***** about having the equivalent of a low slot module without having the choice to put the one they want.

It worked well with mining barges. Let's just do that. Wouldn't want people making it easier to gank them now would we.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#274 - 2012-11-10 21:46:35 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Opertone wrote:
damm, 1 low slot for a DC II (damage control, freighters have a lot of structure)

It will make ganking a lot harder.

60 CPU and one low slot and one powergrid, CCP it is not much

Doesn't work when you autopilot.

Also, Expanded Cargohold II. Lets you reduce your tank and cram even more billions in that freighter Shocked

Instead, just ask CCP to give the freighter structure DCII resists just as part of the hull. That way you can't accidentally expand it's cargo and you no longer have to turn on the module.

People would ***** about having the equivalent of a low slot module without having the choice to put the one they want.

It worked well with mining barges. Let's just do that. Wouldn't want people making it easier to gank them now would we.


The barge/exhumer should of had thier role defined like they did but mostly with the old EHP style. Only the one defined as tanky should of had a good tank before fittings. A full MLU setup should not be defined as even an OK tank...

If they want a freighter with more EHP, introduce faction model with added EHP and lesser cargo hold and still no fitting slots. For example a Caldari Navy Charon. It's a charon with added shiled generator to amek them more resilient in combat zones. Those shield generators of course took place so the EHP buff cost them space in the hold. Every faction navy could ahve one with the usual tanking system thier faction usually uses buffed as they would of followed the doctrine of thier owm navy to create it.

It should cost TON of cargo hold space or it will become the de-facto freighter. We don't want this either. We should not do the same misstakes as was done with the Mackinaw.
Zhade Lezte
#275 - 2012-11-10 23:48:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhade Lezte
Frostys Virpio wrote:

The barge/exhumer should of had thier role defined like they did but mostly with the old EHP style. Only the one defined as tanky should of had a good tank before fittings. A full MLU setup should not be defined as even an OK tank...

If they want a freighter with more EHP, introduce faction model with added EHP and lesser cargo hold and still no fitting slots. For example a Caldari Navy Charon. It's a charon with added shiled generator to amek them more resilient in combat zones. Those shield generators of course took place so the EHP buff cost them space in the hold. Every faction navy could ahve one with the usual tanking system thier faction usually uses buffed as they would of followed the doctrine of thier owm navy to create it.

It should cost TON of cargo hold space or it will become the de-facto freighter. We don't want this either. We should not do the same misstakes as was done with the Mackinaw.


Charon with more EHP and lesser cargohold? I like it! Maybe we can make it require some additional skills to fly, some bonus resists depending on race, and make it jump capable while we're at it Blink

(I don't really have any issue with a faction freighter being introduced, assuming it wasn't as hamfistedly designed as the barge buff, but this was too good to pass up.)
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#276 - 2012-11-11 00:34:47 UTC
Orca, with a Siege Warfare squad commander in a vulture., with Shield reppers too.

HG Crystal set
Invul Field
Large Shield Extender
and... 2 x-Large ASB's

I fly thru Uedama a few times a week with Multiple Billions in cargo, sometimes have to make 2 trips.
Freighter sits rusting in hanger. Like 220k ehp I think, not counting the ASB's.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#277 - 2012-11-11 05:59:10 UTC
Gank them all.. it's good for business...

Pirate

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#278 - 2012-11-11 06:22:57 UTC
Lets be serious here, if you gave freighters a lowslot people would just throw a nanofiber or an expanded cargohold mod in to increase their ~isk per hour~.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#279 - 2012-11-11 06:46:52 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
It should cost TON of cargo hold space or it will become the de-facto freighter. We don't want this either. We should not do the same misstakes as was done with the Mackinaw.

Are you sure "we" shouldn't do those same mistakes?

I heard the new Mack is loved by all miners in highsec.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#280 - 2012-11-11 07:11:01 UTC
Wait, isn't a Jump Freighter a freighter with lower cargo space and higher HP like the masses are asking for? It's even faster than a freighter as a bonus.

Seems like tools are already in game... yet again.