EVE General Discussion

I accept your statement that an awful player would not have escaped from a maller under those circumstances. The fact I "escaped", which is to say my drones whored on the Concord killmail, therefore (by your logic) proves that I am not an awful player. Thank you for recognising my lack of awfulness.

Also, thank-you for clarifying that you're happy to whine, but not to actually do anything. You, sir, are a credit to AFK miners everywhere.

wow, you are a smart one. lol. yes, there is some risk in undocking, but its low enough to be negligible. Don't think in extremes and use common sense. Key word "essentially" zero risk.

Nope I don't assume much, I read the Dev Blogs, obviously something you have failed to do.

Please enlighten everybody on how CW2.0 is going to make people grow a balzac?
Your one liners, while pithy, do not actually explain your thinking.

Last time I checked, Eve isn't seen as a joke in the gaming community, it's seen by many as one of the few true sandboxes out there, here the players provide the content, both bumping and suicide ganking are player driven emergent content, i.e. something CCP never envisaged happening when they gave us the tools and game mechanics.

There's a reason that Eve doesn't have the sub figures of titles like World Of Warcraft, it's a niche game in a market flooded with avatars with oversized swords, funny ears and games with no lasting consequences or influence resulting from a players actions, some of the people that play the likes of WOW etc don't like the idea of losing all their uber gear when they die, hence they don't play Eve.

no logic behind those arguments. I guess I win. Learn to pvp, baddy, and you wont feel the need to defend your ability to annoy people while under the protection of concord. People like you are such a joke to me.

Bumping is just a way someone discovered to grief people in high sec without having to kill them and have concord show up. It's cowardly.

thank you, voice of reason.

Cementing my victory.

AFK mining is a way that someone discovered as a method of printing ISK while not actually playing the game, it griefs other miners without concord interference by devaluing their labours and time to the lowest common denominator.



Foolish assumptions? please explain the errors in our interpretation of the published Dev blogs.

I agree.

Griefing is bannable, and quite rightly so. You should petition griefers without hesitation and let the GMs take care of business. Sadly, for you, we are not griefing. Everything the new order does complies with the EULA.

As for cowardly, no, it's just people adapting and reacting to changes made by CCP. The real cowards are the miners, like Jacob Amaris, who whines like a little girl in local pleading for someone else to kill us, but who wouldn't dream of turning off his mining lasers long enough to do it himself. It's an isk per hour thing, you see? Better to leave that barge AFK mining and come to the forum to whine to the devs.

I might also add that it's fun! Many of our "victims" have a damn good time with us in their system, sharing laughs and great conversation, while they tediously chip away at that ice cube in the hope that this cycle will finish the bugger off.

I salute you sir, you can see both sides of the argument, bumping is taking advantage of aggression mechanics but at the same time AFK mining is taking advantage of the cycle times and the recent EHP buff of the vessels used to do it, the latter of which made it considerably more difficult to pop mining barges, bumping is a reaction to the buff.



So basically you can't point out any errors in our interpretation, you just decide to dismiss the question completely . PI, research & datacores on the whole don't require undocking your ship unless you're on a collection run, mining requires that you undock everytime.

Take for example a vessel at a customs office that is untanked and carrying a fortune in product, that ship is open to being ganked if it's spotted and ship scanned, a frigate full of datacores is open to being ganked, a frigate full of BPCs on its way to market from a research pos is open to being ganked. All of those AFK activities carry a risk, albeit a lesser one. Your argument is moot, every activity in Eve can be messed with, it's just catching some of them at the right time.