EVE General Discussion

Hello all.

as seen in other threads many players feel like stagnation in eve. Okay, ccp keeps their plans and "throws" different new things into their updates for us - but what keeps missing is long time motivation.

Lots of pilots just keep their subscriptions for leveling their chars. Content has become boring and poor - why is that:


1. New topics, but no Ideas and concepts that are ready to go for

WIS - one of those heavily discussed concept traps in the past. Ok, pilots can walk now..or better: pilots can stand around now. But what does this mean for eveplayers? Is there any meaninful sense planned or already realised? If we look at dust 514 where WIS actually is shown (please correct me if I am wrong) it looks like WIS will end in eve when entering the "door" in captains quarters.

In how far is this interesting for players who can spend real money for their ava-look?

CCP is suggerating lots of ideas like "cola on the desk". But will eve players ever be able to put their npc loot decorative and visible 3d into their rooms? The way that ingame success can be made visible and "true" in the chamber too? How far is that WIS actually planned out and projected in a sensefull way?

Or do you think a spaceship game doesnt need it? Well this is a question of game depth but one thing is sure: just implementing features superficial wont advance the situation at all - players are not satisfied long times with just unsolved "topics" in the game.


2. Stations themselves
okay, we are going into the direction that players become more power, have to control more themselves, less npc securities, etc..
One thing they can't control is the look and the assembling of their stations. I mean sure, you can buy some facility ...and anchor it somewhere.That was a great feature...10 years ago. Nowadays "sandboxes" have much powerful features and I really wonder why nobody at ccp is coming up with certain ideas, especially in times of WIS discussion:

A very basic sandboxfeature for a eve corp or company is creating their own infrastructure in a very indivudal way. I dont understand why pvp and pve features are not connected here. Eve hase pretty much detailed npc stations and bases at missions and quests - but what can you do in a corp? Just buy and anchor....

Let me just give brainstorming ideas to express what I am talking about when I think of a "sandbox"-game,

where is:

decorative elements:
- lootable station items ((e.g.: shansa look, etc) interior, tables, furnitures etc, different textures and colors for stations, changeableü)
- lootable station decorations (coca cola, dancerst etc)


visible station elements in space:
- bridges tunnels, docking-sluices that can be assembled for a real wis AND real visible look in space: each station would have a different look & feel

industrial connectivity
- like on planetinteractions, the station and industrial infrastructure-elements are connected and visible in space. But instead of lines, with 3d items (walkable refinery, connected to station with walkable tunnels etc, etc. LOTS of space for new content here)


and ...sense? Here it is:
- all premises and facilities are not just "virtual" anymore, but can be created, designed and experienced by providing a 3d access & feeling to them. Players can walk in them, see lots of cool stuff and animations with will provide the whole game a certain long time motivation to play and loot npcs.

A powerful creative aspect that allows player to 100% design their favourite environement and infrastructure themselves. The player-identification level would be very high, and imagine how serious space wars would become then. Everybody would go for it ...and defend or attack with everything he has....
This way we would have a "standard" WIS for the Dust514 shooter and provide an enhanced powerful "sandbox" WIS experience for Eve again that is worth a subscription for longer anytime...

probably not, and considering how my last thread asking what is happening to EVE Player counts got locked by ISD Type 40.
I'll say it might be best not to talk about this at all.