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Corporation making and managemnt Tips
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Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-11-10 00:02:49 UTC
Well i want to make my own Corp. Is there set amout of skils i need to learn before i even consider making a corp?


1. Should i have a set amout of skill points?

2. Should i have certain skills trained to certain levels?

3. i am getting Plex soon so thats an Additional 500 million isk.

4 Any other investments/ corp funded programs i need to develop to reel people in?


Thanks.

Future Corp Ceo

"You Exist because we allow it....And you will die because we demand it.."
Sexy Pierre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-11-10 00:07:35 UTC
Judging by the average highsec corp you should be fine.
Rengerel en Distel
#3 - 2012-11-10 00:14:53 UTC
Might want to figure out why you want your own corp before starting it. Unless you're doing your own research, there are plenty of other corps out there to join.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-11-10 00:15:06 UTC
Sexy Pierre wrote:
Judging by the average highsec corp you should be fine.



Well its not just high sec im going to expand into low and null sec. and FW and Possibly SOV when i grow more

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Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-11-10 00:16:27 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Might want to figure out why you want your own corp before starting it. Unless you're doing your own research, there are plenty of other corps out there to join.




Basically. A Corp That is both Politically and Militarily Powerful Granted it will take time.

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Clystan
Binaerie Heavy Industries
#6 - 2012-11-10 00:26:48 UTC
Make sure to get BrassBalls into your queue and train it to 5.
Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-11-10 00:52:13 UTC
Clystan wrote:
Make sure to get BrassBalls into your queue and train it to 5.



Hilarious way to troll if your not being serious about the post then dont post.

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Clystan
Binaerie Heavy Industries
#8 - 2012-11-10 01:06:25 UTC
Vrexstus Mercana wrote:
Clystan wrote:
Make sure to get BrassBalls into your queue and train it to 5.



Hilarious way to troll if your not being serious about the post then dont post.



I am 90 percent serious about the post and 10 percent "TGIF" and ready to play Eve.
Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-11-10 01:26:49 UTC
being serious what would you need

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-11-10 01:28:45 UTC
This is the best advice i can give you running your own corp and it was given to me many years ago when i asked this question


Stick a gun to your head and pull the trigger.


it will be less painful and he was 100% correct
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-11-10 01:37:07 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
This is the best advice i can give you running your own corp and it was given to me many years ago when i asked this question


Stick a gun to your head and pull the trigger.


it will be less painful and he was 100% correct



why

"You Exist because we allow it....And you will die because we demand it.."
Malles Istveruckt
Debaser Monde
#12 - 2012-11-10 03:53:33 UTC
Vrexstus Mercana wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
This is the best advice i can give you running your own corp and it was given to me many years ago when i asked this question


Stick a gun to your head and pull the trigger.


it will be less painful and he was 100% correct



why


Because running a corp is essentially a second job. The hours you have to put in to manage everything is quite ludicrous even for a small corp.

How do I know this? I was reasonably senior in my alts old corp and I realised it was fast becoming a huge time consumer. The burn-outs I witnessed of the CEO and the directors was very off-putting and an eye opener.

Having said the above, if you really want to be the CEO of a corp and have plenty of spare time, go for it but make sure you have fun!. Blink
Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-11-10 03:56:22 UTC
Malles Istveruckt wrote:
Vrexstus Mercana wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
This is the best advice i can give you running your own corp and it was given to me many years ago when i asked this question


Stick a gun to your head and pull the trigger.


it will be less painful and he was 100% correct



why


Because running a corp is essentially a second job. The hours you have to put in to manage everything is quite ludicrous even for a small corp.

How do I know this? I was reasonably senior in my alts old corp and I realised it was fast becoming a huge time consumer. The burn-outs I witnessed of the CEO and the directors was very off-putting and an eye opener.

Having said the above, if you really want to be the CEO of a corp and have plenty of spare time, go for it but make sure you have fun!. Blink



What im looking for is if there is a basis of skills you need or skills points or even corp made programs. you being a former ceo any advice?

"You Exist because we allow it....And you will die because we demand it.."
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#14 - 2012-11-10 04:48:58 UTC
Don't give anyone any roles EVER unless they are people you know IRL.

Or make everyone a director and live life on the wild side. Every time you log in it'll be a suspenseful moment when you check the corporation wallet.

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!
Rene Fullchest
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-11-10 05:06:27 UTC
There are certain Corporation Management Skills within the game, yes. For the most part, they allow an economy of scale as to how many members your corporation can have.

However, those are not the skills you REALLY need, as others have alluded to.

You will need infinite patience in order to achieve a nebulous and ever-changing set of goals. You will need to effectively deal with huge disappointments, especially from people who have joined and do not really share your vision. You will need to be able to forgive, and to punish, and to balance those two so as to create an atmosphere where others want to follow you You will need the ability to fund everything, because, for the most part, your members will be in it for themselves. You may call your corp a PvP corp, but understand that most will really be carebears. You will need people you KNOW and TRUST, emphasis on the first of those, to cover timezones when you cannot physically be online and guiding others.

You asked specifically about programs. Basically, you will need to schedule various corp activities, from mining, to missioning, to PvP roams, and then be able to corral members into doing those instead of doing their own thing. Keep them busy and they MAY want to stick around.

Someone else mentioned roles. If you give roles to other players, you will eventually be robbed of everything you have worked for, then end up here on the forums crying about it. If you don't give roles to anyone, you will be doing it all yourself and will burn out that much faster.

I reckon you fancy yourself a leader, and that may be true, but odds are that you aren't nearly as good in that department as you think you are. Prepare for rude awakenings and debilitating setbacks.

Others have said it, and I will repeat it. By being here and asking these questions, you demonstrate that you aren't ready to do this, unless all you really want is a no-tax haven for yourself and your alts. If you are serious, and your illusions of grandeur are real, then you need to spend time in a handful of other, established, corps to learn what the day-to-day is all about. I don't think you will take this advice, but there it is, and given for free.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-11-10 05:15:11 UTC
Rene Fullchest wrote:
There are certain Corporation Management Skills within the game, yes. For the most part, they allow an economy of scale as to how many members your corporation can have.

However, those are not the skills you REALLY need, as others have alluded to.

You will need infinite patience in order to achieve a nebulous and ever-changing set of goals. You will need to effectively deal with huge disappointments, especially from people who have joined and do not really share your vision. You will need to be able to forgive, and to punish, and to balance those two so as to create an atmosphere where others want to follow you You will need the ability to fund everything, because, for the most part, your members will be in it for themselves. You may call your corp a PvP corp, but understand that most will really be carebears. You will need people you KNOW and TRUST, emphasis on the first of those, to cover timezones when you cannot physically be online and guiding others.

You asked specifically about programs. Basically, you will need to schedule various corp activities, from mining, to missioning, to PvP roams, and then be able to corral members into doing those instead of doing their own thing. Keep them busy and they MAY want to stick around.

Someone else mentioned roles. If you give roles to other players, you will eventually be robbed of everything you have worked for, then end up here on the forums crying about it. If you don't give roles to anyone, you will be doing it all yourself and will burn out that much faster.

I reckon you fancy yourself a leader, and that may be true, but odds are that you aren't nearly as good in that department as you think you are. Prepare for rude awakenings and debilitating setbacks.

Others have said it, and I will repeat it. By being here and asking these questions, you demonstrate that you aren't ready to do this, unless all you really want is a no-tax haven for yourself and your alts. If you are serious, and your illusions of grandeur are real, then you need to spend time in a handful of other, established, corps to learn what the day-to-day is all about. I don't think you will take this advice, but there it is, and given for free.


Explains why none of my corps worked out P

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Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-11-11 17:57:44 UTC
Rene Fullchest wrote:
There are certain Corporation Management Skills within the game, yes. For the most part, they allow an economy of scale as to how many members your corporation can have.

However, those are not the skills you REALLY need, as others have alluded to.

You will need infinite patience in order to achieve a nebulous and ever-changing set of goals. You will need to effectively deal with huge disappointments, especially from people who have joined and do not really share your vision. You will need to be able to forgive, and to punish, and to balance those two so as to create an atmosphere where others want to follow you You will need the ability to fund everything, because, for the most part, your members will be in it for themselves. You may call your corp a PvP corp, but understand that most will really be carebears. You will need people you KNOW and TRUST, emphasis on the first of those, to cover timezones when you cannot physically be online and guiding others.

You asked specifically about programs. Basically, you will need to schedule various corp activities, from mining, to missioning, to PvP roams, and then be able to corral members into doing those instead of doing their own thing. Keep them busy and they MAY want to stick around.

Someone else mentioned roles. If you give roles to other players, you will eventually be robbed of everything you have worked for, then end up here on the forums crying about it. If you don't give roles to anyone, you will be doing it all yourself and will burn out that much faster.

I reckon you fancy yourself a leader, and that may be true, but odds are that you aren't nearly as good in that department as you think you are. Prepare for rude awakenings and debilitating setbacks.

Others have said it, and I will repeat it. By being here and asking these questions, you demonstrate that you aren't ready to do this, unless all you really want is a no-tax haven for yourself and your alts. If you are serious, and your illusions of grandeur are real, then you need to spend time in a handful of other, established, corps to learn what the day-to-day is all about. I don't think you will take this advice, but there it is, and given for free.



That is a good point. My Corp is going to be both political and milita. i do haethe leadership ability. but maybe your right i shoul dhold off on it ive been in 2 othe r corps wothin 3 month times spans on my old account,

"You Exist because we allow it....And you will die because we demand it.."