EVE General Discussion

There are good ones?

As the saying goes, "there's lies, darn lies, and then there are statistics".

EVE subs go up year after year? Great. But guess what? Gamer population in general goes up year after year as well. If gamer population, on average, is going up year after year, it could easily account for growing number of subscribers. Game population numbers are creeping up across the board, in most games.

Further, if you think about it, the growing number of subs could be attributed to alt accounts. As players get deeper into the game, they often run into a wall where they can't meaningfully advance on one account, and require an alt to run whatever secondary function is needed (scanning alt, salvaging alt, logistics alt, whatever). This also could account for "growth" of subscriptions, while the actual number of human subscribers could be same or lower. We just don't know. Further, there's no way for us to know this, only CCP does. And do you think they'd flat out come out and tell us how many unique players there are in the game?

Traffic not going down is nice. But it's not going up significantly either. When newer games have have between 400k (GW2) and 1 million (WoW) concurrent users, and EVE has 29-45k depending on when you play, it's not exactly something that shouts "success" from the rooftops.

Dying? No, probably not. Stagnating? I'd say so. And has been for years. It badly needs something to shake it up. And miniscule changes or tweaks to antiquated mechanics aren't going to do it.

^ THIS.
People go on forums to troll and have fun else why go on the forums but to talk about ponies in space and tips?
The general discussion is just a new features and ideas section.

The ISD's are ruining the last bit of fun in this game, i am holding on, waiting for my corp to come active again, i am basically paying to train skills and post on forums.

Forums are no longer fun so i might quit, i haz no stuffz.

The only thing dyeing around seems to be some players will to log in on forums or in game.

Why? -Ho why???

He's not entirely wrong though. I mean, speaking from personal point of view, there's quite a few other games to be added to this list. For instance, also November 20th, is the new Hitman game. Considering how long it's been since the last such title, I'm planning to take some time off to play that one for sure.

Another personal favourite, Far Cry 3, is coming Dec 4th. I wasn't that crazy about Far Cry 2 (OK, frankly I felt it sucked!), but the original game I re-played every winter just for the sake of beautiful palm trees, golden sandy beaches and clear blue water...and shooting mercs in the head. And Far Cry 3 promises to be a lot like the original game, only improved in many ways.

Also not on the list is the reboot of Darkfall on Nov 20th. I played the original, and am somewhat curious to see what the reboot is like.

And that's on top of generic crap titles we get every year, like the new Call of Duty and the new Assassin's Creed.

Personally I don't see myself playing EVE until late into December, or most likely next year, just because of these games I've listed. And I know quite a few people whose gaming habits are about the same.

So he's not entirely off with his predictions.

I wouldn't worry about it. The numbers always bounce around people are doing christmas shopping and busy until the new year. After the new year ppl stay in more during winter months the numbers willl increase then.

Yea well.. the same thing was said about the summer holidays and it still didn't pick up after it, same was also said about nullsec large scale sov wars which is now dead, we are in a trend.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

According to the graph, there is a lower average online than this time last year, and we are still to approach the chistmas break trend..

Eve has been declining for more than a yea now, people like you are denial posting sh1te like that.

A lot of theory crafting going on here

So many distractions out there for some of us.

Me personally:

- soccer season just ended and I'm a bit wiped from 14 hours physical work still (don't get old kids)
- natural selection 2 released (and recently the combat mode). Hours lost and only feels like 15 mins
- the secret world (not for everybody, but I'm thoroughly entertained when I'm faced with a puzzle).
- various other minor and lower player count multiplayer games (counter strike, the hidden, Minecraft etc)

Eve is best enjoyed when you can actually string more than 2 hours together with no breaks. Right now, don't have that time until really late at night.

It's not really dying for me, so much as having matured to be savored in quality doses rather than a soup of the day.

Comparing averages, we are only a tiny bit down on last year's pre Crucible population. It will really all depend on the winter patch and population boost.

He probably should have said "No one cares about Null anymore..."