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Actually they can tell you how a charge works

A charge is dependent on how many electrons are present in an atom, more electrons = a more negative charge, less a more positive charge.

Funny story about why it's backwards... Benjamin Franklin was trying his best to figure out how electricity worked and he figured it was invisible liquid that shifted (perfectly reasonable assumption given the understandings of how stuff worked at the time). He was using a piece of wax and a wool cloth. He figured this invisible liquid was going from the wax into the cloth as a liquid would do. Actually the charge was moving fro the cloth to the wax! That's why it's backwards

All three of the properties you have highlighted are currently being investigated, along with gravity, magnetism and a few others. Some people think that all these apparently desperate concepts may be emergent properties of a deeper underlying theory.

Ultimately though, I think you need to see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFPe-DwULM

If that's the right video (I'm in a lecture I cant listen to it to check), it will explain to you the difficulty of "why" questions.

I don't think "why" is difficult at all, it is the beginning to all things.
Also, that guy didn't actually say anything but "I don't really know", he did however do a VERY good job of covering that fact up with his words however.


& and that is a quality of human Psychology.
Thx for the link though, I will watch the others.

Miracles everywhere in this *****.



I've got one for you. Religion (and I'm not trying to turn this into a religion vs science thread, so please don't.) has always kind of held one small piece of territory. The beginning of life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

As best science can describe, acids basically came together by accident and created basic replicating single celled 'creatures', but no one has any idea how yet. The jargon doesn't do this concept justice. There are laws of physics everyone here seems to have a basic understanding of as well as any person can, but there are even simpler laws of chemistry. Chemical reactions, unless you add energy, always result in simpler and more stable things. Evolution and natural selection play on numbers, but even as we try to talk about the beginning all science quickly skips ahead to 'life everywhere'.

Imagine the FIRST of these things. A chemical reaction where things got more complicated. Matter that didn't fall dark and cold as fast as it could, and something that replicated without reason.

I can see physics and science in the whole world from the big bang to buttering my rolls for dinner and I do not subscribe to any organized religion, but that one spot still makes me think of God sticking his finger in the muck and naming it Adam.

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Bill Nye the Science Guy!

You do know that electrons are waves smeared out across a wide region of space as well as point-like particles, right?

And that electromagnetism is a force with an associated force-carrier?

& how does it do that precisely Mr. genius?
What is the force carrier?
How is it carried?
What mechanisms govern a "force wave smeared over yada yada"


Just more hoopla

Because you can't even tell me how matter has inertia, outside of "It does just because" (TM) You are observing an effect and as a result you mistakenly think that you understand the cause. You are of course mistaken, and probably a little diluted tbh.

Oh my oh my. Tried to stay out of it because most of the responses are just getting trolled. But for the fun of it, let’s take a peek at some of these. WARNING: TL;DR ahead. I had fun writing it, is not proofread heavily. Read at your own risk.

1. Inertia is a property of matter

Asking why inertia exists is in itself a trap because it immediately questions the nature of the universe. Since there is not an agreed upon conclusion (or even hit of a conclusion outside religion) this question is really just attempting to trap. Think about where the idea of inertia came from. All of Newtonian physics was not derived from an underlying theory, it was forged to explain consistent, repeatable observations of nature.

All of Newton’s Laws were NOT ideas, they were peculiarities. The fact they they were predictable was the interesting part. Newton himself thought that these laws were the manner in which God was speaking to us. To question why they existed would be to try to understand God, which by definition is impossible. If you go the scientific route, the answer is “we don’t know yet but there is nothing which has led us to believe that we cannot know.”

But that was only the first part of that question, let’s break down the rest. “what mechanisms create the force that we call Inertia” Inertia is not a force. If what you mean is what “creates” inertia, they again you get into the why. Why do object have mass, where does this come from, etc.. This is worth a library of material, hit the books.

Your third sentence is bunk, but the last one underlines a linguistic ploy to yank peoples chains (or show your own bias). “We can only see that it is happening.” Yes, this is correct. But it deserves more thought than this sentence suggests. This “we can only see it” right here is what took science from alchemists and mystery to “OMFG that’s genius”! And while I feel like describing the importance of this discovery, I assume this will be wasted to the internets, so moving on.

2. Charge propagates through space

Ahhh, this is a fun one. After the second sentence you either hit sloppy writing or just bad science. Even after we understood how light propagated, it was thought to move through a material called the aether. Look it up, its amusing that people really believed in it and even had MEASURED values on it. But, you ask what makes charge propagate through space. The amazing thing is that it is self-propagating without the loss of energy.

A charge produces and electric field. An electric field, as it turns out, produces a magnetic field, which amazingly also produces an electric field. These self-propagating fields are what we call light. A charge is not the thing that is moving (a charge can move -> electon orbits) but what you seem to be talking about is light. If you mean why does a charge move in vacuum, the answer is it wouldn’t. If a charge was placed at rest in a real vacuum (lol) then, it would just sit there.

As far as what IS a charge. Well that is easy to say but difficult to swallow. A charge is a PROPERTY of a physical object. This property has well know, predictable, consistent qualities when it interacts with other properties.

Oh wait, I have to reply to this one too. lolololol. Too much good stuff here.

These lines of arguments always amuse me. The level of arrogance we have about our existence is hilarious. Think about how long the universe has been around. Even if you don't believe scientific arguments hard core, its tough to deny how old the universe has to be. Take that length of time, then think about how LARGE the universe is. Then, on top of all of that, think about how long it take us to get information from EVERYWHERE else. Things within our own galaxy take years to get to us (speed of light, light only travels so fast).

Take all of that together, and think of all of the things that can, could have, and might happen. All of the possibilities stretched out over billions and billions of years. Then think of how limited out window has been to actually observe anything. We have only even been on this planet for a few thousand years. If you use your imagination even slightly, it is not hard at all to believe that all the right elements came together at a certain time for life to be primed on this planet in the relatively short amount of time it has been here.

Whether you go God or Science, you should be amazed that your here at all.

lol, it sure SEEMS like u be trollin, but I enjoy the topic so what the hell.



Honest to god, your questions are not reasonable because they are so vague. You say I didn't answer you question about the movement of a charge (for example). I attempted to from what I understood the question was. You need to sharpen what it is exactly you are asking about, unless...

1) You made this to provoke thought
2) You be trollin
3) You don't care

GL!