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what is this fuzz about dec shield?

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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#1 - 2012-11-08 20:35:09 UTC
can someone please explain me what are this mechanics glitch i keep reading aroudn about war trapping people? what exactly is it, how do it works? is it draining isk from the server?
Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#2 - 2012-11-08 20:46:56 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
can someone please explain me what are this mechanics glitch i keep reading aroudn about war trapping people?

Sure.
Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-11-08 20:51:38 UTC
its where players that want a war get a war.

pretty smple really.
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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#4 - 2012-11-08 20:58:44 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
is it draining isk from the server?


It is actually diminishing the amount of Bits left on the server. When we run out of bits, the bytes will start to break down and the fabric of eve will unravel. We can already see this with Jove space (thus why you can't get there). It is only a matter of time before EVE is a quantum entanglement issue.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#5 - 2012-11-08 21:07:31 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Ager Agemo wrote:
is it draining isk from the server?


It is actually diminishing the amount of Bits left on the server. When we run out of bits, the bytes will start to break down and the fabric of eve will unravel. We can already see this with Jove space (thus why you can't get there). It is only a matter of time before EVE is a quantum entanglement issue.


One way CCP tried to plug the bits hole was to block all the station doors with binary load-lifters and then welded them in place with a Soundwave Hellfire Arc Welder Mk 2.

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-11-08 21:52:12 UTC
Its something that going to get the coding changed real quick or highsec will finally be totally 100% safesec- suicide ganking
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#7 - 2012-11-09 00:50:11 UTC
The devs aren't dumb and I have a strong sense that they seem to really care about the future of this game (no action needed) at most a little tweaking.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#8 - 2012-11-09 01:05:26 UTC
This is quickly becoming 'Eve is dying' thread.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#9 - 2012-11-09 05:14:11 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This is quickly becoming 'Eve is dying' thread.


No, no! Unraveling. There is a difference!

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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#10 - 2012-11-09 05:37:13 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
can someone please explain me what are this mechanics glitch i keep reading aroudn about war trapping people? what exactly is it, how do it works? is it draining isk from the server?


This glitch was predicted 2500 years ago by Confucius - "The hardest thing of all is to find a dec-shielder in a dark room, especially if there is no dec-shielder."
Alara IonStorm
#11 - 2012-11-09 06:08:01 UTC
Since I think in analogies please tell me if I understand this.

CCP has made the new Dec system work like virtual herpes. Once you Dec a Corp with the herpes you can not break up with your own Alliance to **** another Alliance or if you are single start a new relationship with an Alliance, because you have the War Herpes.
Mr Pragmatic
#12 - 2012-11-09 07:10:58 UTC
Perma-wardec me please.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-11-09 07:19:24 UTC
Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#14 - 2012-11-09 08:22:38 UTC
Andski wrote:
Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP.


If you use the wardec system, simply be prepared to fight. If you're not expecting to fight someone, don't start a war.

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Oopsy Bear
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-11-09 08:23:37 UTC
Andski wrote:
Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP.


To be fair, the only PvP I've seen in hi-sec was one of the following:


  • suicide ganks on haulers
  • suicide ganks on miners
  • three man alt corps dec'ing three man alt corps to steal their POS
  • fleets camping jita waiting for the "fair fight" to emerge
  • people who baited others for a kill right taking out the guys mission ship
  • bored high sec corps picking on "carebears" who coincidentally are no match for the dec'ing corp


So in other words, hi-sec is just as free from PvP as it has always been.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#16 - 2012-11-09 08:27:29 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Its something that going to get the coding changed real quick or highsec will finally be totally 100% safesec- suicide ganking


Nope, there's always the NPC corps.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-11-09 10:03:42 UTC
Depends on who you ask.

DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.

The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at .............
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-11-09 10:04:43 UTC
Oopsy Bear wrote:
Andski wrote:
Given the "working as intended" responses from CCP, it's clear that they want to ensure that hisec is free of PvP.


To be fair, the only PvP I've seen in hi-sec was one of the following:


  • suicide ganks on haulers
  • suicide ganks on miners
  • three man alt corps dec'ing three man alt corps to steal their POS
  • fleets camping jita waiting for the "fair fight" to emerge
  • people who baited others for a kill right taking out the guys mission ship
  • bored high sec corps picking on "carebears" who coincidentally are no match for the dec'ing corp


So in other words, hi-sec is just as free from PvP as it has always been.

Congratulations for not understanding what the abbreviation PvP means.
Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-11-09 11:34:14 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Depends on who you ask.

DecShield is awesome, because it's an easy way to get thousands of players to shoot at.

The ones whining about it are the ones one can shoot at .............

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-09 12:46:17 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
If you use the wardec system, simply be prepared to fight. If you're not expecting to fight someone, don't start a war.


Fighting implies getting actual fights with other players, not fighting poorly designed game mechanics intended to discourage unconsensual wardecs as much as possible. "hurr u shuld be rdy 2 fite!!!" is a stupid argument because, hey, we might as well ask CCP to give everybody in every wardec aggressor alliance a permanent suspect flag for no good reason, just to add *~cOnSeQuEnCeS~* even though the goal is to ensure that no carebear can possibly be harmed by a big bad ganker ((((

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