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Should WIS be a Kickstarter type project with CCP?
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Solhild
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-11-08 20:31:45 UTC


David Braben is having a look at refreshing the Elite game.

Should CCP use this model, or even present different WiS proposals to EVE players to see which we'd prefer to invest in? I'd happily pay a bit up front to have something named after me etc.

Thoughts...?
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-11-08 20:35:52 UTC
No
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#3 - 2012-11-08 20:45:18 UTC
you owe me a keyboard, a desk and extensive facial reconstruction.
Solhild
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-11-08 20:47:02 UTC
Romvex wrote:
you owe me a keyboard, a desk and extensive facial reconstruction.


Interesting, please go on...
Hrothgar Nilsson
#5 - 2012-11-08 20:47:34 UTC
I don't see why they couldn't port some of the code used for DUST to create WIS, discarding all the current code. Maybe it could even be a shared environment between DUST (without their weapons) and EVE players.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#6 - 2012-11-08 20:49:50 UTC
I'd be very disappointed if CCP asked for donations to complete content.

Oh god.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#7 - 2012-11-08 20:53:43 UTC
No because we pay monthly subscription fees for them to develop that. Currently their attention is not on WiS.

why?

Incarna Gate.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#8 - 2012-11-08 21:00:27 UTC
No WiS in my Eve thanks.

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Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#9 - 2012-11-08 21:01:11 UTC
I'd be willing to donate to get stuff named after me. PLEX for system rename anyone? 10 PLEX, and you get a 0.0 or wormhole system named after your character. Though I'd want options as to what department the money goes to.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#10 - 2012-11-08 21:03:18 UTC
WiS will consist of code written for World of Darkness first and this second, instead of the other way around. Because EVE players demanded it be so.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#11 - 2012-11-08 21:03:54 UTC
this would only work as separate game experience. You cant take the money from eve subscribers, so you have to reach other people via kickstarter.

walking in station does nothing without game mechanics or a purpose

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#12 - 2012-11-08 21:05:59 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
I don't see why they couldn't port some of the code used for DUST to create WIS, discarding all the current code. Maybe it could even be a shared environment between DUST (without their weapons) and EVE players.


That is much, much, much, much, much harder than it sounds for a variety of reasons of which the most important one is DUST and Eve use 2 different engines and, suffice to say, we could literally talk game engines all day and still barely scratch the surface.

Also, I believe the plan is to eventually allow Eve and Dust players to share the same environment sometime down the road.

...like waaaaaaaay down the road.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#13 - 2012-11-08 21:09:36 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
I don't see why they couldn't port some of the code used for DUST to create WIS, discarding all the current code. Maybe it could even be a shared environment between DUST (without their weapons) and EVE players.


It's like trying to connect a red wire to a black wire when setting up your house's electrical system.

"They're both wires right?"

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Anuillae Fourneaux
Calydon Inc.
#14 - 2012-11-08 21:14:21 UTC
Solhild wrote:
Romvex wrote:
you owe me a keyboard, a desk and extensive facial reconstruction.


Interesting, please go on...

He's saying that your suggestion is so stupid that he facedesked so hard that he went straight through his keyboard and his desk in one go, which rather mangled his face.

I'm somewhat inclined to agree with him.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-11-08 21:14:25 UTC
kickstart it

into a fire
Destru Kaneda
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
#16 - 2012-11-08 21:16:43 UTC
I'd be more interested in a kickstarter for getting Dust on more platforms.

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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#17 - 2012-11-08 21:21:29 UTC
The thing is that CCP has absolutely no excuse at all for asking for Kickstarter donations and they would be mercilessly mocked by the entire internet if they did so.

Kickstarter is for indie developers who need startup cash, not proper companies who already have one very popular subscription MMO and are working on their second (and third?) games.
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-11-08 21:24:15 UTC
I would if it was developed and released as a separate game like DUST. Make it something similar to Second Life so that when Capsuleers do get to use it, the station will be filled with roleplayers, cyberwhores and peasants too poor to afford spaceships.

Herping your derp since 19Potato - [url=https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2403364][Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts[/url]
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#19 - 2012-11-08 21:40:51 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
I would if it was developed and released as a separate game like DUST. Make it something similar to Second Life so that when Capsuleers do get to use it, the station will be filled with roleplayers, cyberwhores and peasants too poor to afford spaceships.

That could work. Let anyone download the station environment and get to look outside the windows of everyone flying around in spaceships, or watch tv of dust wars from the CNN of eve, Scope.
Let them mop floors for 8 isk a hour. Run into instances of CQs to collect capsular trash and make beds in epic dungeons.
Kono Kai
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-11-08 21:50:23 UTC
Its all about developer time. To get more WIS content you're going to need artists, animators, content developers, coders, QA'rs, etc. They aren't going to pull people off the internet spaceship game to do WIS for a LONG time. This would leave you with an enormous kickstarter requirement to actually hire a whole new dev team.
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