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What am I doing wrong?

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Amedeus Nolen
Mahavishnu Inc.
#1 - 2012-11-08 19:36:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Amedeus Nolen
*****TL;DR Pod me? Please?*****

I’ve been playing EVE for 4 months and I just keep feeling like I'm missing something.

Now obviously I’m missing out on the corporate dynamic, as you can tell by my only character spending the whole time in an NPC corp. Don’t feel like I have enough time/skills/talent to play with the big boys in the real corps. What I’m talking about is missing the fly what you can lose, nonconsensual pvp. Where is it?

I started playing EVE after reading an article about Burn Jita. I had always heard about it and put it off, but after spending 6mo with SW:TOR I really felt like I needed something different. So I read a devblog about TiDi implementation for the event and besides making my eyes bleed it made me want to play the game. Bad. So I did what I always do, I read. I read ISK the guide. Cover to cover. And after I had taken enough Advil to make the brain stop hurting I read wikis. Forum threads. Day zero for EVE players. Anything I could find. And only after about 2 weeks of reading I finally made the jump and started my trial subscription and LOVED IT.

The sense of danger was palpable. Couldn’t really understand setting an undock warp point so I was convinced I was going to be killed every time I undocked. (Yeah, now I know you’re not gonna get ganked in a started system :-/ ) I told my friends I was playing and couldn’t convince anyone to play because of the danger. They had heard about the wretched hive of scum and villainy. The first thing one of my friends said in response to “oh I’ve started playing this EVE game” was to ask me if I’ve been killed and robbed yet.

So I fit my shields. I constantly aligned to station while I was mining, ever vigilant that somewhere out there was someone looking to give me a one way ticket back to a clone bay. I would dock when I had to empty my bladder. I ran away from agents giving me missions to low sec. Whenever I bought something to fit a ship I bought 2 to replace it when I got blown up.

And then………………………………………………………nothing………………………………….

The griefers never came. The tear drinking, ship ganking, newbie pwning 733t pvpers let my clones expire in their bays, never used before I had to upgrade to a new model. Insurance on my ships expired. I don’t even remember if I have insurance on any of my active ships. I got lazy, and it got bad. The other day I let my mack mine ice while I drove my wife to work and stopped at the store. I leave drones in space and forget to add new ones when I get back to station. I spent a week with an expanded cargohold on my drake because I kept forgetting to put my power relay back on. I take missions into low sec and putter around a bit… salvaging and watching nothing happen in local.

It got so bad that I plotted a course 35 jumps into *EDIT* Null-sec the other day just to see how far I could get. (In case you are wondering, 2 jumps in a civilian fit starter frigate) After being podded for my first time on this run I actually thanked the campers that got me for giving me the experience.

Which leads me back to my topic, what am I doing wrong? Where are the gankers? I have so many tears built up that I need a good release. Is it all about the null corp pvp that nobody spends time killing the little guy anymore? Can I put a bounty on myself just to make it so that I’m afraid again?

Suggestions appreciated. Thank you for your time, and fly (not too) safe!
Grapez
Moviintti
#2 - 2012-11-08 19:41:59 UTC
There aren't, actually, that many gankers. But there are a lot of people willing to complain about the few that do exist. If you're in a safari mood, head to Rancer or Gonditsa or Reblier and just chill in one of the belts.

I didn't read you op but I hope that this is helpful anyway. later.
Kobal81
HR..
#3 - 2012-11-08 19:42:26 UTC
HTFU

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit"

Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#4 - 2012-11-08 19:46:24 UTC
Posting on the forums is a good way to start. Big smile

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus

bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#5 - 2012-11-08 19:47:20 UTC
First time i went into low sec...i lost my apoc. Second time i went into low sec...i lost a second apoc =) Some systems are more dangerous than others.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-11-08 19:49:55 UTC
Reminds me of a joke:

Masochist says, "Hurt me, hurt me."

Sadist replys, "No."

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Clystan
Binaerie Heavy Industries
#7 - 2012-11-08 19:52:09 UTC
You need a plan.

Pick a plan that involves more risk and interaction and execute it!




Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#8 - 2012-11-08 19:52:50 UTC
If you want to find gankers, go out and look for them. You can't just have everything you want handed to you on a plate, you have to do things for yourself.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#9 - 2012-11-08 19:53:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Xercodo
You just discovered the melodramatic hyperbole that surround EVE and all the stuff about it. It really isn't half as bad as what people make it out to be. But the second you **** off anyone with any significant power it will be hell. You need to do something to get noticed. Goto a very crowded and popular mining system near Jita, there is bound to be plenty of gankers around there.

Insult someone's mother, get them really riled up, get them to war dec you....then you start to feel it.

Or maybe go live a week in deep null sec. It's a definite personal test of will to live in null with no blues of friends to speak of....you'll end up getting complacent with the lack of people popping in and out of local. You will get lazy with the expectation that your system is empty 23.5/7 when you're that far out on the edge.....

And then one day you'll find yourself in station in highsec after having gone afk in a belt.

The Drake is a Lie

Sarlot
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-11-08 19:53:27 UTC
I completely agree with OP on the rarity of high sec ganks. In my many years of off and on play I have never been attacked while mining in a .6 or above system (but I was bumped once) and the only time I was somewhat consistently attacked while mining in a .5 system was a system located between low sec systems.
Now if the OP is serious about wanting to be consistenty attacked in a low sec system I would reccommend Ami in Amarr space that is a tough place to afk mine.
Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-11-08 19:55:19 UTC
Join RvB as red or blue and shoot your little heart out, and have your little heart shot out. That should keep you busy awhile.
Expending Doom
#12 - 2012-11-08 20:04:47 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
If you want to find gankers, go out and look for them. You can't just have everything you want handed to you on a plate, you have to do things for yourself.


If you want to find gankers you could make yourself bait. A lot of people will fly around with Blueprints and/or PLEX to achieve this.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-11-08 20:08:19 UTC
You need to **** someone off it sounds like. Get in the heaviest ship you can with as much mass as possible. MWD fit the thing and start bumping the crap out of freighters and miners. That will get some hate on you.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-11-08 20:12:59 UTC
90% of whines are a result of Bat Country operations it seems. In the caldari ice interdiction the forums exploded with ranting and raving about how highsec was awash with gankers and that everything was on fire and nothing could be done. Truth was that there was 15 bats blowing up barges with no tank.

The chances of a ganker finding you is somewhat slim given the low number of us and the fact that we only target the exceptionally stupid. If you want to find pvp you are going to have to either join RvB or leave high sec.
Totalrx
NA No Assholes
#15 - 2012-11-08 20:17:26 UTC
Remember that in High Sec, you have to be worth something to get ganked.

A small civ fitted frig isn't worth the sec hit or the loss of a ship to Concord.

Sign up for Red vs Blue or find a Faction Warfare corp. Then you will be checking your back more often Blink
Vincent R'lyeh
Screaming Hayabusa
#16 - 2012-11-08 20:19:44 UTC
Where you were going wrong is here:

Quote:
while I was mining


Where you started to do things correctly was about here:

Quote:
It got so bad that I plotted a course 35 jumps into low-sec the other day just to see how far I could get.


Now rinse & repeat, never look back.......

FLY YOU FOOL!

I have deliberately developed an air of cynicism that I originally intended to make me appear somewhat louche and caddish but actually comes across as irritable hostility combined with the unspoken threat of sudden violence.....

Amedeus Nolen
Mahavishnu Inc.
#17 - 2012-11-08 20:29:05 UTC
Vincent R'lyeh wrote:
Where you were going wrong is here:

Quote:
while I was mining


Where you started to do things correctly was about here:

Quote:
It got so bad that I plotted a course 35 jumps into *EDIT*Null-sec the other day just to see how far I could get.


Now rinse & repeat, never look back.......

FLY YOU FOOL!



Thanks for your posts everyone! I guess that I was wrong in my conception about what life therere is in a corp like RVB or living out in null...

if you join RVB I assumed that it would be just fleet/blob warfare on one side to the other... does it involve hunting/being hunted 1v1? if so that makes it much more enticing.

I was also under the impression that null was more corp/alliance/sov based and there wasn't much to do unless you were part of a corp... I don't have tons of time to play and i play at odd hours so i mostly rat/mine/mission by my lonesome. stupid newfoundland time... up before NA and after EU

I just want that sense of danger and excitement again... and having the adrenaline start pumping while i'm just making a boring shuttle run to pick up a new part, ydig?

thank again for eveyone's input!
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#18 - 2012-11-08 20:41:26 UTC
1. Buy 50 rifters, merlins, incursus or punishers
2. give zero fucks
3. lose them ALL
4. find out what you did wrong each time you lose one, every now and then you get a kill
Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#19 - 2012-11-08 21:21:21 UTC
While many people dump on Providence, it does have a decent amount of small-gang warfare. And since they're NRDS, you can head down there any time you want. I'm sure someone's recruiting.
There's also videos of people doing solo roams. Check out kil2 (youtube link), as well as several others. They often explain what they're doing, which is helpful for those of us who are hopeless at pvp, but enjoy it nonetheless.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#20 - 2012-11-08 21:37:58 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
You need to **** someone off it sounds like. Get in the heaviest ship you can with as much mass as possible. MWD fit the thing and start bumping the crap out of freighters and miners. That will get some hate on you.

Doesn't work :/

Miners aren't motivated enough to attack you.
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