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CCP Focuses on EVE Universe - A CCP Announcement

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Largo LaGrande
R E D E M P T I O N
#441 - 2011-10-19 23:40:24 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
eh Ive never talked to a GM in game and then was told to post anything on the forums lol


if needed i can provide proof of answer from gm
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#442 - 2011-10-19 23:42:45 UTC
Largo LaGrande wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
eh Ive never talked to a GM in game and then was told to post anything on the forums lol


if needed i can provide proof of answer from gm



I can confirm that they do this from time to time on questions they don't want to answer... the best question is a DIRECT question... whether they answer it or not, you get your answer pretty quickly..

There is no future for Eve unless CCP can get subscriber numbers up... F2P it is.

It IS coming... don't deny it to yourself.
DJ Xaphod
Eve Radio Corporation
#443 - 2011-10-19 23:45:41 UTC
And still no CCP response in this thread. What?

Hellmar, did you honestly think you could hide the sacking of key EVE Online community team and other staff members with a release that tried to imply that this was nothing to do with $$$ and was all about focusing on EVE?

Did you think we wouldn't notice when you started to sack all the people we'd built up a relationship with?

This flies in the face of previous communication; after your open letter I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt; you seemed genuinely apologetic, you seemed to genuinely want to be more open in your communication with us.. and yes, at first glance that is what this particular announcement looked like, but right now it seems very much like you're telling us we're important on one hand while sacking the people we communicate with directly on the other.

If CCP is genuinely in financial trouble and needs to majorly restructure its staff, including the community team, then I at least will understand, but that's definitely not what you're saying. If this is what you're having to do, we'd appreciate transparency and some sort of information about what the future holds for the communication between CCP and the EVE Online community.

I can't help but think that either you're lying to us, and EVE Online is NOT in good health, or you're lying to us, and you have no intention of strengthening the continuous development of EVE Online. Or both.

Maybe that's a communication problem, perhaps one of your community team can correct me.. oh wait..

So again CCP: I'll watch what you do, rather than listen to what you say.. and right now you're demonstrating a severe lack of caring for the EVE Online community.

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Nak hak
#444 - 2011-10-19 23:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nak hak
Issler Dainze wrote:

I manage software projects for a living and have for 33 years. So I get the whole "mythical man month" concept of adding folks to a project not making it come together any sooner.....,

This is not a refocus on Eve, this is a "we are going down, we are out of ballast so we need to throw some crew out of the dirrigible to survive!" moment. And oh, "don't touch our favorite part of our anvil collection! That stays in the blimp!"

~ This

It's about freedom.

Best Regards, Nak hak
Largo LaGrande
R E D E M P T I O N
#445 - 2011-10-19 23:47:02 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Largo LaGrande wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
eh Ive never talked to a GM in game and then was told to post anything on the forums lol


if needed i can provide proof of answer from gm



I can confirm that they do this from time to time on questions they don't want to answer... the best question is a DIRECT question... whether they answer it or not, you get your answer pretty quickly..

There is no future for Eve unless CCP can get subscriber numbers up... F2P it is.

It IS coming... don't deny it to yourself.



Well there is a couple more things i would like to ask on the forums after they answered this one and i m sure CCP
is not gonna be happy about it when i do..

but hey i tried it to do directly with em they refused and send me to the forums.
Shu Jia
Mineski Infinity
Pandemic Horde
#446 - 2011-10-19 23:49:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Shu Jia
walking in station is a must without jeopardize the real value of gameplay in eve.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#447 - 2011-10-19 23:52:01 UTC
Shu Jia wrote:
walking in station is a must without jeopardize the real value of gameplay in eve.


REMAPS in the NEX store is a MUST!

Bloodline changes are a MUST!

Customised ships in NEX store is a MUST!
Largo LaGrande
R E D E M P T I O N
#448 - 2011-10-19 23:52:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Largo LaGrande
Shu Jia wrote:
walking in station is a must without jeopardize the real value of gameplay in eve.



Walking in stations was just implemented here so eve can test it as guinea pigs for dust and WOD to get all the kinks out

Btw Hillmars open letter is a bunch of bull just to dampen the rage ppl still have until the next expansion comes out

READ BETWEEN THE LINES

I know whats coming ...Do you?
Jean Leaner
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#449 - 2011-10-19 23:58:27 UTC
Our subs are up! So we're firing 20% of our staff and refocusing the rest!


Riiiiiight.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#450 - 2011-10-19 23:59:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Taedrin
DJ Xaphod wrote:


If CCP is genuinely in financial trouble and needs to majorly restructure its staff, including the community team, then I at least will understand, but that's definitely not what you're saying. If this is what you're having to do, we'd appreciate transparency and some sort of information about what the future holds for the communication between CCP and the EVE Online community.


I already mentioned this just a page ago, but this is probably pretty close to the truth. A sizable loan was due in October, which CCP's liquid assets couldn't cover (as of a few months ago when the financial statements were leaked, at least). As such CCP likely had to enter into some sort of agreement with their creditors and this downsizing is part of it.

Creditors don't want to see money Soon(tm), they want to see money Now(tm). As such, CCP has to cut costs to appease their creditors. While they are at it, they are pulling resources away from projects which won't bear fruit for the foreseeable future and reallocate them to their flagship product in the hopes of increasing revenues Now(tm) so that they can pay off that loan easier.

Likely, the community team was seen as being less critical towards bringing in revenue than developers, as such CCP fired them in the hopes of being able to focus more on content which will appease players.
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#451 - 2011-10-20 00:00:24 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Hey, where are the CSM in all this? I havent seen them post today

We are all deeply concerned about this announcement and its consequences for CCP and EVE.

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery
Largo LaGrande
R E D E M P T I O N
#452 - 2011-10-20 00:03:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Largo LaGrande
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Hey, where are the CSM in all this? I havent seen them post today

We are all deeply concerned about this announcement and its consequences for CCP and EVE.



Well thats great

how about you guys let us in on the issue i posted earlyer . i am sure it has been discussed (i pretty much know)

It would be a token of good faith to adress this in here so we can finally see that CCP turned legit with their players
The Offerer
Doomheim
#453 - 2011-10-20 00:04:14 UTC
I hope that CCP picked the right team to stay and save the rest of the company. After all, if those 80% prove to be passionate about the core EVE content that brought this game multiple Game of the Year awards, I will have no fear about the future of CCP (and wouldn't be surprised if they start mass hiring again).

Just remember - the Apocrypha was CCP's best expansion to this day. Analyse what exactly was done there, reinvent yourself with getting back to the roots of what makes this game and you will be looking at much more brighter future.

Good luck.
Miklas Laces
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#454 - 2011-10-20 00:04:29 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Hey, where are the CSM in all this? I havent seen them post today

We are all deeply concerned about this announcement and its consequences for CCP and EVE.

ROTFL
Root'er
Nemesis Horizon
#455 - 2011-10-20 00:16:40 UTC
we dont have enough resources so wer firin' people

right. makes as much sense as cancel subscription butan
wont renew my 3 accs, thanks for yesterday's devblog it finally make me post on corpforums "i'm leaving"
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#456 - 2011-10-20 00:20:08 UTC
Root'er wrote:
we dont have enough resources so wer firin' people

right. makes as much sense as cancel subscription butan
wont renew my 3 accs, thanks for yesterday's devblog it finally make me post on corpforums "i'm leaving"


Oh. This **** again.

Who's going to start the 'I quit" threadnaught this time?

Mr Epeen Cool
Reverand Pastor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#457 - 2011-10-20 00:37:53 UTC
I think you underestimate the level of disgust. I have unsubbed 2 accounts unfortunately i paid yesterday so i gotta wait 28 days. If i will be back i do not know. but this isnt about me so my apologies.

P.S: Seriously you can have my stuff :(
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#458 - 2011-10-20 00:39:37 UTC
Reverand Pastor wrote:
I think you underestimate the level of disgust. I have unsubbed 2 accounts unfortunately i paid yesterday so i gotta wait 28 days. If i will be back i do not know. but this isnt about me so my apologies.

P.S: Seriously you can have my stuff :(


Thanks.

I'll log in now and wait for the contract to come up :)

Mr Epeen Cool
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#459 - 2011-10-20 00:40:59 UTC
We can hope that the remaining survivors have a passion for their work, their livelihood and the resulting product(s).

But we also need to pray that very little knowledge of existing code was completely lost with the departure of CCP personnel. That could be very bad for revising existing content -- the very thing that will help bring CCP back in good-stead with its subscribers.

I wonder if CCP's share owners and debt holders are looking at sale options for CCP assets while the company 'refocuses' itself.

p.s. phuck you forum post eating monster. I copy and pasted my post to get around the auto-delete feature.

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.
Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
#460 - 2011-10-20 00:41:46 UTC
Plenty of sympathy for those being given the flick today, none whatsoever for those doing the flicking.

CCP, are we learning yet?