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OP sold in another thread. Reposting with a different character of mine.

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Lic Misak
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-11-07 01:32:44 UTC
Here is a RECENT SALES THREAD for a 99 mil sp MINMATAR PILOT (some wasted sp warning) for 31 billion isk.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167904&find=unread

PatriotXT
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-11-07 01:40:29 UTC
You cant base the character market on any one sale...

it's completely random. Depending on interest, need, who sees it what the seller values it at and how badly they need isk really.
many factors in the character market to consider.

Also, after you reach a certain SP level you dont really gain that much more isk simply because people arent walking around with hundreds of billions of isk in their wallets to spend on a character.

A 30mil sp char can go for 12b while a 40m sp char can go for 13b while a 7m SP char can go for 8b a 22m SP char can go for 9b

also you being a total dickhead to everyone is not going to help your popularity rating much.

just saying.
Lic Misak
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-11-07 01:52:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lic Misak
PatriotXT wrote:
You cant base the character market on any one sale...

it's completely random. Depending on interest, need, who sees it what the seller values it at and how badly they need isk really.
many factors in the character market to consider.

Also, after you reach a certain SP level you dont really gain that much more isk simply because people arent walking around with hundreds of billions of isk in their wallets to spend on a character.

A 30mil sp char can go for 12b while a 40m sp char can go for 13b while a 7m SP char can go for 8b a 22m SP char can go for 9b

also you being a total dickhead to everyone is not going to help your popularity rating much.

just saying.


Ask any old character traders (post in bazaar to request one's attention if needed). Price of characters are not completely random. The asking price does fluctuate depending on a number of reasons, but it follows a pattern. The need of the buyer affects the price of characters the least (if at all). How many sellers sold characters for under market value because the buyer states that he/she is poor in-game?

Reaching a certain SP level does gain you much more isk. Consider current sales threads for characters well above 100mil sp. I can link a few for you (if interested).

I know that I am not being personable, but there are reasons:
A misinformed seller believes that he/she knows more about character bazaar than a market player that has done countless transactions. Novalis X posts his opinion in a WTB thread, refutes my statements without evidences, and offers a character that does not meet my requirements.

kakarrot2 posts something that needs to be edited by filter, refutes my character trading abilities, and states that character prices should reflect GTC prices. If you saw his character, it will be evident that it is in his best interest to state so. It is trained improperly (training of advanced spaceship command to 5 before completing battleship to 5, etc) Clearly misinformed as argued by myself.

bestica doesn't state a single counter, and posts in my WTB thread (as if it is in general discussion).

I am out to buy a character for a reasonable/current price, not make e-friends.
PatriotXT
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-11-07 01:57:50 UTC
I'm sure you have your reasons for getting your nostrils flared.

On topic, I was going to offer up mine, which is currently for sale.

But it's not minmatar, so I didnt:)

but if you think, 30sp sells for 12m
100sp should be around 43b yes?
yet they sell for considerably less, regularly.

not everyone has isk falling out of their butt to afford a luxury char, but best of luck finding your new toon:)
Lic Misak
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-11-07 02:04:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lic Misak
PatriotXT wrote:


but if you think, 30sp sells for 12m
100sp should be around 43b yes?
yet they sell for considerably less, regularly.



Thanks for not wasting both our times with an offer of non-minmatar character. =)

Depends.

Lower sp characters tend to have higher rate than 50 mil sp characters.
The rate tends to get a little more distorted by the the transfer costs than the higher sp characters (2 plexes = 1.176 billion isk atm) as well as higher demand (affordability).

I at one point had over 8 high sp characters in stock, though only ended up using 2 frequently. So I sold them for good profit, but now one high sp and one mid sp are lonely...so I am looking for company.

P.S.
There is a 118 mil sp character that is probably going to be sold for 45 bil area.
There was a 99 mil minmatar (linked before in this thread) that sold for 31 bil area.

Depends on a number of factors
Novalis X
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-11-07 11:00:08 UTC
Lic Misak wrote:


If I wish to change my budget? For your character? LOL

I know that your character is well-trained, but not blind to the fact that the character is a -9.xx pirate.



You are seriously complaining that someone links. -10 char when asking for pirates lulwut. But sure what ever. I have no need to sell but it is a char I dont use so if someone wanted to use him it would be putting it to better use. If I was selling him on the open market I would just spend a few days seccing him up.


Also you say he doesn't meet your requirements, and from your demands he's 4m sp off which but well focused. But I'm not going to argue over small details.

I get that you are here to get yourself a char at a reasonable price but you are not helping yourself by acting like you are. I have also been involved character sales for a 'long' time. Since they started actually and buy and sell chars mulitple times a week on my jita alt. So please don't act like such a big dog as you are not.

Hope you find what your looking for and please mail me a link to the Eveboard and price of the one you get so I can see what focused PvP char you get for your money.
Lic Misak
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-11-07 12:18:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Lic Misak
Novalis X wrote:

You are seriously complaining that someone links. -10 char when asking for pirates lulwut. But sure what ever. I have no need to sell but it is a char I dont use so if someone wanted to use him it would be putting it to better use. If I was selling him on the open market I would just spend a few days seccing him up.


Also you say he doesn't meet your requirements, and from your demands he's 4m sp off which but well focused. But I'm not going to argue over small details.

I get that you are here to get yourself a char at a reasonable price but you are not helping yourself by acting like you are. I have also been involved character sales for a 'long' time. Since they started actually and buy and sell chars mulitple times a week on my jita alt. So please don't act like such a big dog as you are not.

Hope you find what your looking for and please mail me a link to the Eveboard and price of the one you get so I can see what focused PvP char you get for your money.




I am not complaining that you posted a pirate. Far from it tbh.

Since you do not seem to remember what you posted:
"Posting to agree with Onyx you will not find what you want with that budget, maybe a poorly cross trained char with a bad mix of skills, but thats still pushing it at that price.

If you wish to change your budget I might have a char for you. Although only 36m sp, a very focused char.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/jim%20harder"

You stated that I will not find what I am looking for within the budget (which you assumed was for all characters). You stated that I should be expecting a bad mix of skills for the budget. Then proceed to tell me that a 36 mil sp -9.xx pirate should fetch more than 300 mil per 1 mil sp without any discount factored in.

The minimum sp amount required is to ensure that the basic training is covered. My preference is actually for 50-60 mil sp, but i set the 40 mil sp as a limit to consider. Since it is short (3 mil or 10 mil sp), I am not inerested. Period.

You state that you have been in character trade for a long time. Somehow mentioning Jita, as if plexes were used for the transfer cost for a "long time." So you want to meet in Eve-online and discuss our first character acquisition/sale to see who has been in the character sale market longer?

Due to the nature of buyer/seller relationship, I highly doubt that my personal attitude will affect purchases. Buyer will be interested in friendly sellers, but sellers are interested in attaining the most isk for their character. Considering the situation (you posting your opinion, undermine my WTB thread, then link under qualified character), I believe I am within reason to argue with your points. The only other option is to report your post, as it would qualify for removal (opinion + not qualified character)...but wanted to argue my points (which were not refuted...just you bad buyer/seller etc).

My last two purchases:

http://eveboard.com/pilot/omegaplex - 35 bil (under 2 weeks ago)

http://eveboard.com/pilot/HippoKing - 21 billion isk (yesterday)
itzic
#28 - 2012-11-07 12:36:16 UTC  |  Edited by: itzic
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Lic Misak
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-11-07 12:43:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lic Misak
itzic wrote:
http://eveboard.com/pilot/itzic


comand: night, sleipner, absolution
t3: tengu, loki, legion
mara: vargur kronos
maibe just 5 days for phanter / nyx

....



Hi Itzic,

Although tempted, I am sorry to inform you of my intent to pass on your character.
I believe that it will take too long to train to the desired skillset

If requested, I will provide further explanation in-game.

Ty for your offer.
itzic
#30 - 2012-11-07 16:53:25 UTC
skill set for what ship?
Lic Misak
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-11-07 18:26:49 UTC
itzic wrote:
skill set for what ship?


I am looking for a character that can fly many ships proficiently.

Since you are minmatar/gallente/amarr character with multi-racial training, I expect it to be proficient in all the trained races (to a point). You can market it as strictly minmatar (as in your eve-mail to me). However, I see a ton of sp that could have been used for minmatar related skills.

I do not look forward to the time it will take to get your character to the level I desire...such as navigation for roaming with speed tank related minmatar ships, controlled burst for trained energy turrets, hybrid turret or missile skills for the caldari cruiser 5, and drone skills.

it is a good start, but I am not patient enough to train it the rest of the way.
Lic Misak
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-11-07 19:23:42 UTC
sold character Lic Misak.

will post another WTB with my new main.
CraftyCroc
Fraternity Alliance Please Ignore
#33 - 2012-11-08 00:42:51 UTC
WHAT A ****

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