Missions & Complexes

the character is over 2 years old, how long have you actually been playing Eve? i sounds like significantly less than 2 years.

i wouldn't recommend going into incursions as a logi if your experience is quite low with logis and the game in general. just be patient, pay attention, and run some missions for now. if you do those things, you'll figure something out soon enough.

tl/dr: be patient/pay attention.

Ok i was in the about same position as you are in right now, now after 3 months im living in nullsec happily :o) ). However i think i took the right way, so im goin to explain:

Assumptions:
-Want to PvP
-need isk inorder to support pvping (ull loose alot at first)
-dont want to grind (missions/mining)

Idea:
combine learning the basics you need for pvp with making money^^.

How i did it:
-Start with canflipping (you get a feel for enemy ships, what you can take on what you cant, greatly removes adrenaline rushes you get when being engaged ^^, doesnt pay well though), meanwhile train skills for exploration
-start exploration in highsec, figure out what sites pay best (not gonna help with that :P)
-move on to Lowsec exploration (you get all the basics you need for pvp srsly, after a week of losec explo my wallet was filled,
and i felt perfectly confident moving thru losec, learning directional scan, Scanning:o), checking local, safespots, reading people, stopping omg smns showing up adrenalin rushs :P), if youve got a nice corp/alliance -> go do some weekly pvp ops with them or smth :o), at that point you will have the money to do so from time to time
-If youve got the skills, go running incursions -> youll learn some fleet basics + good isk(that part i skipped though, as i completely disliked the idea of skillng for big ships :P, however if i was to repeat my career id do it this way
-start moving thru nullsec from time to time just to know how it feels to be bubbled(optional)

-> Go look for a pvp Corp :P

hope this helps^^

as i myself am quite new it might not be the best advise, but it definately works and comparing to other people at my char age i got quite alot of knowledge about the game :P

EDIT: oh yeah and talk to experienced players ALOT, ull make some friends and learn a shitload :P

Partially agree with this ^^^^ I have tried with many ships fits blitzing, dual boxing.. I have never seen 60mil hr missioning.
Incursion Vanguards however can easily get you the 100mil/hr if you get a good fleet. I recently got into a damn good fleet and we were doing sites in under 5 mins and each site reward is 10,5 mil, so can vouch for that. WH'ing isn't bad either but to do get off times. Exploration is also pretty random. So selling plex's or Incursions will be the best till CCP decides to change that.
Logi is always needed.. so train all the support skills up and logi 4 at least and you will not battle to find a fleet.

hm what would be considered support skills

everything in engineering, mechanic, electronics and navigation that boost your ability to fit and better maintain modules, cap, health etc.

i srsly recommend exploration (esp. lowsec), as it will greatly enhance your dscan skills and offers a very(very) rewarding challenge for a soloplayer. Also you will get a feeling for the locals, where the high traffic travel pipes are, which entities to avoid and perhaps some basic pvp exercises brought upon an innocent belt ratter. Or heck, another explorer

Incursions if you're more of a fleetguy, they make vastly more money than lowsec explorers. But i don't like the inertia of a fleet (assembly, moving etc) and the statics of incursions-PvE.

As for the impatience part: Get another account if this is your only one. At the moment you get a discount with the "power of two" program, just look it up in your account management center.
There are so many things you can do with another toon while the other one is waiting for a skill to finish in order to unlock a new career path or ****.

Sure, you could as well base out in lowsec on a nice L5 agent and run his missions for epic LP and dogtag profits,
while also getting in touch with the hairy parts of eve, i mean pvp. Requires some good standing though.

I don't know much about wormholes, only ninja'ed some C1 and C2s in a Nighthawk when they were released.
But you hear they give great profits while also offering a challenge to a small gang.

The thing is you're never somewhat 'safe' in wormholes because of no local so you have to hammer dscan to stupidity and beyond to find out what's going on around you.

What can you fly? What are your skills like? Did no one ask this question already?

http://eveboard.com/

If you really want to try your hand at incursions, but don't like flying the bigger ships, I recommend the Minmatar Recon, the Huginn. Incursion Vanguard fleets will always need webbers to grab the pesky sansha frigs, so that the big shiny faction BS's can pound them into tiny bits. Train up to recon 3 at least (4 is minimum if considering pvp'ing in a cloaky recon btw) and I believe you can web out to 28k or so with standard T2 webs. If you want to get ridiculous, get some Federal Navy webs, recon 5 and a boosting Loki, I think you can break 65k without heat! Be sure to check what range your battleships are equipped for though, it really pisses off the vindicators when you web things waaay out of blaster range. I trained up for a Huginn, and it paid for itself within the day.

Fit goes something like
Highs (not really important)
3x 220m ACs
3x HMLs

Mids:
2x T2 or Meta 4 webs
2x T2 Invulns
1x Large Shield Extender
1x 10mn Afterburner to speed tank torps/run ore. Alternatively, fit a tracking link, or another LSE

Lows:
1x T2 Damage Control
And the other two can be damage mods or speed mods.

Rigs: 2x Med. Core Extenders

Usage is simple. Upon warping in, orbit a battleship at 2500m or so, call for shields when needed, and web ECM frigs first.

THANK YOU ALL WHO HAVE POSTED IN MY THREAD!

i apprectiate it


and before i do get into wormholes or just think about em i was just curious how the isk pay was and for which types etc etc