EVE New Citizens Q&A

It might make more sense to make an alliance and break it up into different corps with specialties. I.e. Your alliance is Billybobbobart and Billy is your PVP corp, Bob is your mining corp, Bobart is your PVE corp.

You still share a single alliance chat but then your corp chat encapsulates your specific things like your PVP corp Doesn't care how efficient you need to be to refine something. But does care if they are doing a mining op and are likely to get attacked.

Would you say that it would be more worthwhile to build a corp up doing one specific thing and try and join an existing alliance?

My preference is to take it slow, grab a handful of people to start with probably specialising in one thing, get a decent setup going with a decent profit margin and then expand with people and into other areas of business.

Be careful when trying to combine aggressive activities like pvp with passive ones such as mining. Any player corp can have war declared on it by another corp or alliance, and pvp activities are far more likely to give someone a reason to hunt you down or pay someone to do it for them. War is a mining corps worst enemy, proper mining ships stand no chance at all against a halfway decent pvp ship so most miners are at least annoyed by the prospect of war if not dreading the event altogether. Its at least possible with the recent barge changes for miners to withstand the damage long enough to receive reps from nearby pilots but the you have the trouble the siting on guard for your miners on the chance that they get attacked is incredibly boring for a pvp pilot.

^ This.

Like a pilot a corp too has to have some focus. Otherwise it will be a 'jack of all trades, master of none' corporation.

If your have a corporation with miners, mission runners and PvP guys, there will likely always be one group who will be 'unhappy'.

If you guys mine a lot, the PvP guys will complain/leave cause of the lack of shooting others.
If you guys PvP a lot and end up with wardecs, the miners will complain/leave cause they can't really mine that much.

Best to specialize a bit and join an alliance to supplement your corp.

A corporation with miners that like to PvP occasionally that joins an alliance that does an occasional roam into low-sec/null-sec will suit all needs.

They can mine all the want and join the PvP players when they feel like to. The same the other way around, those PvP players might want a day of rest and do some easy mining and can join you guys.

This way you can make use of each others strengths and cancel out each others weaknesses (the miners can for instance make a program where the PvP guys can buy modules at a discount price, the miners make profit, the PvP guys don't have to spent that much, win-win situation).


And above all, as new corps are started daily but usually are closed pretty quickly as they grind to a complete stop over time, your corp needs:

* A goal
* A vision
* Structure

This means, people should know what the corp is planning to achieve both in long term plans as well as short terms. They also should know how the corp is trying to get to that goal and how the members can help get there and what the benefits for the members are on achieving that goal (or mid way milestones).

And structure just means, how are roles distributed, who is in control, who is 2nd in command. Is there a program for people that want to do more then just their thing. Is it possible to be promoted to for instance recruiter, diplomat, industrial manager, director etc etc. and what is required to get to such position.

EDIT: So a corporation that says "We just mine together" likely will get recruits but won't evolve. After a while people will get bored and try something new.

EDIT2: I noticed that thie OP is quite young in EVE and likely the main character. Although I wish you the best of luck with your own corporation, I would suggest to blend into another corp (you can join the corp with your friends together) that has settled and has older characters in it.

Those old guys can help you with learning the basics of EVE and help out when you need help. In the mean while you can take a look at how that corp is ran by it's leadership and learn from that too (maybe even ask the CEO how he does it).

TIP: use titles for giving people roles & access rights.

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I would advise joining someone else's corp until you see a definite need to start your own. Many things in EVE will be much easier with a large number of people either supporting you directly by helping run things, or indirectly by simply being interested in what you're doing.

As an example, mining becomes much more efficient in fleets of dozens of pilots, especially if they are dozens of players rather than dozens of alts of the same player. Not only will the hauling and refining be more effectively delegated, but the sheer entertainment value of dozens of players from different backgrounds and nationalities talking about which My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic episode is their favourite (and whether Hasbro should bring back Derpyhooves) should not be underestimated.

Learn about running a corp from people who are already doing it. Then when you feel you can do it better, instigate a coup or leave to start your own corporation.

Eh, no.

If they're both new, it's a better idea for them to join a corp that has more experienced players who can help guide them and maybe even give them ISK and ships if they needed it. When I started EVE, having a corp with plenty of vets in it was an invaluable resource.

POS's should not be a concern for them for a long time. It's very expensive to fund a POS, and they probably won't be interested in getting one of those for at least a year. Those things aren't cheap at all.

The Mackinaw is like a Retriever, but takes more time to train for and is better. Use the Retriever as an interim vessel to reach the Mackinaw. If you're smart about watching for gankers, you won't be at that much risk. I mine in a Hulk right now though, since I'm used to having to empty out my ore hold every cycle after flying the Covetor. The Hulk/Covetor barge group gets more yield than the Retriever/Mackinaw group, but you can't really AFK-mine while you're doing it and you need to be able to fly a decent hauler.

The fourth point about older, established players ... I don't really get what you're trying to say here, but it seems negative. My corp has quite a few older players in it, and they've been nothing but helpful. Now that I'm going to be moving on to a new corp after a year or so, none of them have given me any trouble. Older players are generally nice.

Starting a corporation is indeed a rather difficult process (I would know, the corporation I'm in right, I've built from the ground up, with a few honourable mentions).

Starting with the tight circle, work your way to like minded individuals (If mining, try the Mining Chat.) Get to know people, then slowly implement your idea of your corporation into the conversation. Work from there.

Get to know some people that are worth knowing, and then start little adventures. Wander into low-security, you will find what you like, and what you don't like. Get to know local pirates and such. I know, affiliating with pirates? ABSURD? WRONG!

Here's a success story:

My corporation consists of two corporations, one of which was a low-sec gate camping scum (This is a compliment to them, mind you), and I made friends with them. After many events, they merged with us. Don't you love the butterfly effect?

As for money: Salvaging with missions and imposing a small tax (Say, 5%) that should start the flow of ISK.

My word of advice to you: Be paranoid, you'll lose a lot, but you'll also gain a lot. You will lose members, but you'll also gain more. There is no end what you can do as a corporation, as there is no end to EVE.

Welcome to EVE Online.

YTK

That is EvE.

With one addition, have fun, or everything else is without meaning ;)

What everyone else said. You're seriously better off joining another corp, and benefitting from other peoples lessons.

That and the fact that various hisec gankers and other sleazy types already know who you are, and that your new corp doesnt have many skills or defenses.