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Retribution Golem - Less TP Juggling and/or Much Easier to Maximize Torp Damage
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stoicfaux
#1 - 2012-11-06 02:55:14 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
With Retribution, we get a couple of torpedo buffs:
* Guided Missile Precision applies to torps, rockets, and HAMs, (i.e. a 25% reduction to explosion radius)
* T2 Ship TP bonus increases to 10% per level

So if I got my numbers right, with Skills V, 5% implants, and the new bonii:

edit: The Golem will need dramatically fewer TPs (2 for elite cruisers!) to maximize torpedo damage. (PWNAGE == meta 4 TP.)

Mercenary Commander (Small Fast Cruiser)
* Retri Golem - 3 PWNAGE - 0.81 volleys
* Old Golem - 4 PWNAGE - 0.95 volleys

Arch Gistum Centurian (Small Fast Elite Cruiser)
* Retri Golem - 2 PWNAGE - 1.80 volleys
* Old Golem - 4 PWNAGE - 1.61 volleys

Gist Commander (Smalll Fast Battleship)
* Retri Golem - 1 PWNAGE - 1.99 volleys
* Old Golem - 2 PWNAGE - 1.99 volleys

Core Admiral (Slow Big Battleship)
* Retri Golem - 0 PWNAGE - 4.06 volleys
* Old Golem - 1 PWNAGE - 4.21 volleys

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Archa4 Badasaz
Vangazhi
#2 - 2012-11-06 11:25:50 UTC
What are those PWNAGE? And how come you say there are boosts coming for the torps and the number of volleys is bigger?
stoicfaux
#3 - 2012-11-06 13:39:02 UTC
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:
What are those PWNAGE? And how come you say there are boosts coming for the torps and the number of volleys is bigger?

PWNAGE is the Meta 4 TP. Look at the initials for the meta0-4 TPs for some humor.

The volley count is the same (round up.) However, in many cases you need noticeably fewer TPs to achieve those results. This means that the Golem is getting a buff in the way of reduced TP Juggling.

Looks like the general rule of thumb is going to be 0-1 TPs for battleships, and 2 TPs for cruisers (even elite cruisers!) So a 3 TP Golem is probably the way to go for Retribution.

Also, Rage torps are tentatively looking good, depending on what their actual new range will be. I'll run the numbers when I get the chance. Also, a torp CNR might be practical as well.



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Lady Godwynn
Lady Godwynn Corporation
#4 - 2012-11-06 14:02:01 UTC
The changes to unguided missiles are quite exciting. It's beyond my skills but I was wondering if
you had had a chance to look at other things, such as the HAM tengu or even how deadly stealth bombers
with torps will become?

LG
Akuma Tsukai
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-11-07 05:47:14 UTC
Hehehe if thats true its VERY nice. I already use unguided missiles for pretty much everythig and really, they were subpar compared to short ranged weapons in PVP. Now they might become very good :)
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-11-07 07:56:33 UTC
I've always kept procrastinating my Torp training for my Hound, but with the buff next month, I ought to take care of it.