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Urgent message for nullsec players
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#21 - 2012-11-06 03:11:11 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...

all they want to do is shoot you.


Null-sec is a meta-game, where a few leaders and their friends get fabulously wealthy, on the backs of their pilots.....Cool

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#22 - 2012-11-06 03:15:53 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...

all they want to do is shoot you.

Null-sec is a meta-game, where a few leaders and their friends get fabulously wealthy, on the backs of their pilots.....Cool

I get wealthy on the back of the Guristas Pilots !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Charles Case
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-11-06 04:47:15 UTC
This is not urgent
Charles Case
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-11-06 04:47:37 UTC
Jump into EC- RIGHT NOW it's empty mang!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#25 - 2012-11-06 04:54:23 UTC
Charles Case wrote:
Jump into EC- RIGHT NOW it's empty mang!

If you jumped you're BARK BARK

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-11-06 04:56:14 UTC
I get wealthy on the back of The Mittani, who has graciously arranged for a massive space empire to provide me with reimbursements.

He's a giver, that Mittens.
Lesile Sasen
I - Live - Here
#27 - 2012-11-06 05:07:41 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall.


So Outposts, NPC Stations, and POS's provide no backbone to industry? Pretty sure its just people being cheap and lazy.

Cheap, cause why mine when I can buy what I need in High Sec.

Lazy, cause why mine anything other than A,B,C and M for cash
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-11-06 05:25:51 UTC
Lesile Sasen wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall.


So Outposts, NPC Stations, and POS's provide no backbone to industry?
No.
Quote:
Pretty sure its just people being cheap and lazy.
npc corp
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#29 - 2012-11-06 05:33:20 UTC
Lesile Sasen wrote:
Lazy, cause why mine anything other than A,B,C and M for cash

B and C are pretty bad value in terms of isk/m3. So ha ha.

Also, nullsec doesn't have that much of the lowends anyway, certainly not enough to feed our TITAN BLOB that blots out your structure.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dave Stark
#30 - 2012-11-06 10:12:39 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...

all they want to do is shoot you.


Null-sec is a meta-game, where a few leaders and their friends get fabulously wealthy, on the backs of their pilots.....Cool



that's funny, when i was in null (and in test) i kept 100% of the minerals i mined, refined, and hauled back to jita. all i did was pay one of their JF pilots a few isk for fuel and they hauled it back to jita for me.

if anything, i was getting rich on their backs.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2012-11-06 10:23:36 UTC
Lesile Sasen wrote:
So Outposts, NPC Stations, and POS's provide no backbone to industry?
No.

Jita (a single system) has 300 slots.
Sobaseki (one jump away) has 250 slots.
Nonni (another five jumps) has 750 slots.
Lonetrek as a whole has 12,600 slots.

Those are nice backbones for industry.

Tribute — an entire very well-developed region of space — has 497 regular production slots.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-11-06 10:28:36 UTC
why do people talk about the big bad gatecamps stopping them from going to nullsec

i didn't run into any gatecamps or gates when i've moved characters to nullsec because i used a very complex process to bypass gates

step 1: open medical services
step 2: set clone station
step 3: switch to pod
step 4: undock
step 5: self destruct and go make tea

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Dave Stark
#33 - 2012-11-06 10:30:33 UTC
Andski wrote:
why do people talk about the big bad gatecamps stopping them from going to nullsec

i didn't run into any gatecamps or gates when i've moved characters to nullsec because i used a very complex process to bypass gates

step 1: open medical services
step 2: set clone station
step 3: switch to pod
step 4: undock
step 5: self destruct and go make tea


please tell me you had expensive implants when you did that, it'd be a great thing to read on a tuesday morning.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-11-06 10:32:33 UTC
Stupid is as stupid does. ~ Forrest Gump

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#35 - 2012-11-06 10:33:22 UTC
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-11-06 11:20:41 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
[...]
I went off into nullsec to visit some old friends today and before i went i picked up some stuff from highsec for them.
[...]


OP, you missed the point and you didn't get the whole tragedy.

We do not want visitors. We have visitors.

What we want is a need / incentive for players to come to nullsec. We demand a mechanic that encourages people (from highsec and everywhere) to form up and invade null. A mechanic that encourages them to try to claim systems, destroy our assets and so on.

Nullsec is a constant movement between a handful of entities. The biggest, the popular. Always the same entities and / or the same people.

You, OP, are not a challenge, especially not in a nullified cloaky ship "visiting" null for a few minutes and brabbling in forums about things you obviously do not understand.

Thank you.

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#37 - 2012-11-06 11:34:59 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...

all they want to do is shoot you.


Null-sec is a meta-game, where a few leaders and their friends get fabulously wealthy, on the backs of their pilots.....Cool



that's funny, when i was in null (and in test) i kept 100% of the minerals i mined, refined, and hauled back to jita. all i did was pay one of their JF pilots a few isk for fuel and they hauled it back to jita for me.

if anything, i was getting rich on their backs.


Bob was probably in IRC, which is the EVE equivalent of North Korea.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Geligdio Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-11-06 11:50:05 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall.



+1

Thanks
Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#39 - 2012-11-06 12:00:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ravnik
Andski wrote:
why do people talk about the big bad gatecamps stopping them from going to nullsec

i didn't run into any gatecamps or gates when i've moved characters to nullsec because i used a very complex process to bypass gates

step 1: open medical services
step 2: set clone station
step 3: switch to pod
step 4: undock
step 5: self destruct and go make tea


Sounds simple enough, however something went terribly wrong in the clone process. You appear to have lost your face....

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-11-06 12:11:18 UTC
adopt wrote:
Translation of OP:

pls stop boobling gaets so i can rat in ur spaec m8


How about please stop bubble gates so I can haul the tritanium to nul that they keep whinging there isn't enough of? I'd love to run contracts out to nul, but the last time I tried to set up a route in a shuttle, I got bubbled and ganked. cba doing it again.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104