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Warfare link tricks

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Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#21 - 2012-10-28 18:27:58 UTC
Please link evidence of this being used before the last AT. I'm really curious.
Duncan Tanner
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#22 - 2012-10-29 13:55:09 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
Please link evidence of this being used before the last AT. I'm really curious.


It's a pretty good tip and you probably discovered it independently but it doesn't mean the idea was first discovered by you and it doesn't mean that anyone else who uses it copied it. We used this in AT9 and I wouldn't be surprised if it was used before that.

A variation of this idea is to put links on more than just 3 ships if you happen to have 4+ bc/cs in a setup and move squad positions based on what you are facing just before the cd. Moving squad positions during a match is important too as your squad leader getting taken out will remove wing and fleet bonuses for everyone.

Anyway you'd probably get a more receptive response to your posts if you didn't claim ownership of ideas. Ironically, if you hadn't made it an issue by saying it was your idea you probably would've been given credit for it anyway since you're the first to discuss it publicly. hth

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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#23 - 2012-10-29 14:20:19 UTC
Well this wasnt invented by you i'll let you know.

In ATX i was firing in my merlin so much that my one gun turned off. It was obviously doing that so i could online my ASB and tank like a boss...
Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#24 - 2012-10-29 15:00:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Faffywaffy
Duncan Tanner wrote:
Faffywaffy wrote:
Please link evidence of this being used before the last AT. I'm really curious.


It's a pretty good tip and you probably discovered it independently but it doesn't mean the idea was first discovered by you and it doesn't mean that anyone else who uses it copied it. We used this in AT9 and I wouldn't be surprised if it was used before that.

A variation of this idea is to put links on more than just 3 ships if you happen to have 4+ bc/cs in a setup and move squad positions based on what you are facing just before the cd. Moving squad positions during a match is important too as your squad leader getting taken out will remove wing and fleet bonuses for everyone.

Anyway you'd probably get a more receptive response to your posts if you didn't claim ownership of ideas. Ironically, if you hadn't made it an issue by saying it was your idea you probably would've been given credit for it anyway since you're the first to discuss it publicly. hth


I never claimed any ownership (I don't think you can patent eve fits Smile); on the contrary - I would like it if everyone used the sensor integrity link and ECM setups became much weaker and more rare. I did say I invented it (which I did), and that my team was the first to use it in ATX as far as I know (actually some of it was invented for AT9, but didn't end up being used). People here really like to put words in my mouth; maybe it's the written form, where no nonverbal cues are available that makes people think I implied things I didn't.

I would easily believe you knew and maybe used this trick before we did, but VoC more likely did "borrow" it from us (hopefully the won't take offence at "borrowing"), as it's too much of a coincidence that they used it right after my cyclone loss.

Also, this is just the first trick - there will be more. I picked to discuss this one first because it was already visible if you looked closely enough (my and VoC loss-mails).

Yes, having more than 3 link ships is another good trick, but somewhat more obvious, I think.
Rengas
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#25 - 2012-10-29 15:37:06 UTC
Fatyn wrote:
We had offline links pretty early in testing so It is quite funny to mention us "stealing" his trick - I guess a bit of egomania is not a crime -


Duncan Tanner wrote:
It's a pretty good tip and you probably discovered it independently but it doesn't mean the idea was first discovered by you and it doesn't mean that anyone else who uses it copied it.


Lucas Quaan wrote:
Hahahaha. No.


Interesting opsec on your invention which seems to have been used by Hydra, PL, TEST and ourselves way before your cyclone loss.

HandofSatan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-10-29 16:19:23 UTC
Confirming VoC has very skilled pilots, quite a few have been pvping VERY WELL before you or me have even started playing eveonline. Most of VoC has played this game strictly for pvp for many years and given the number of highly ranked pilots in it and corp histories you should not assume we had to "borrow" anything from anyone. This was our first tournament, hell we haven't even been in this alliance a year yet so there isn't any real tournament history to base your assumptions on since we fought you so early in ATX.

I know you are not trying to offend anyone faffy but just from our history of flying together lots of times you can come across as if you are attacking someone when you are only trying to provide constructive criticism and feedback.
Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#27 - 2012-10-29 16:49:51 UTC
Ok, let's just say that I find the coincidence curious, but don't deny that it could be just that.

Anyway, since there are no prizes awarded for being the first to invent anything in Eve, and since, as I have already said, my only claim is to have come up with this trick intependently, I suggest we drop this topic, and maybe discuss the trick itself, if there is anything to discuss.

P.S. HandofSatan, it saddens me to see you and other people who I have respect for in an alliance with a bunch of uncreative forum trolls who have been hounding every post I made here.
ROSSLINDEN0
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#28 - 2012-10-29 20:28:46 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:

P.S. HandofSatan, it saddens me to see you and other people who I have respect for in an alliance with a bunch of uncreative forum trolls who have been hounding every post I made here.



It's because every time you post we catch the scent of a bittch and it just draws in all the hard dicked dogs aka VOC to your thread, but seriously just sit back and look at your posting history on these forums and try and understand why people dislike you.
Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#29 - 2012-10-29 21:45:48 UTC
ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:
seriously just sit back and look at your posting history on these forums and try and understand why people dislike you.


Don't project your own made-up, distorted view of the world on others.

My guess the reason why you dislike me is your poor reading comprehension, which you've demonstrated on several occasions. I believe it started when I complained that our scimi pilot had all shield transporters offlined when he was moved to the tournament system and a bunch of VoC guys told me it was my own fault for not pre-checking everything.
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-10-29 22:04:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Gnaw LF
Faffywaffy wrote:
ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:
seriously just sit back and look at your posting history on these forums and try and understand why people dislike you.


Don't project your own made-up, distorted view of the world on others.

My guess the reason why you dislike me is your poor reading comprehension, which you've demonstrated on several occasions. I believe it started when I complained that our scimi pilot had all shield transporters offlined when he was moved to the tournament system and a bunch of VoC guys told me it was my own fault for not pre-checking everything.



Don't mind the naysayers Waffy, there are kindred spirits out there who know how great you truly are. Who can see your amazing potential, they know the entire EvE universe is out to get you, to bring you down when they should worship you. One day you will show them, you will show them all how right you were with your "ideas", your complaints and "suggestions". They will know the pain of having wronged you, they will know suffering for doubting you. Its coming Faffy, the day of reckoning is coming.
Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#31 - 2012-10-29 22:09:10 UTC
If only I cared...
sevyn nine
Cutting Edge Incorporated
#32 - 2012-10-30 00:13:54 UTC
Why all the hate?
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#33 - 2012-10-30 01:18:31 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
If only I cared...


Care enough to post.
Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#34 - 2012-10-30 08:42:48 UTC
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Faffywaffy wrote:
If only I cared...


Care enough to post.


Yeah, I had to walk 10km in the snow to my local library to post that. Naked. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways.
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#35 - 2012-10-30 09:04:02 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Faffywaffy wrote:
If only I cared...


Care enough to post.


Yeah, I had to walk 10km in the snow to my local library to post that. Naked. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways.


Please link evidence that it was uphill, both ways.
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#36 - 2012-11-05 11:05:15 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Faffywaffy wrote:
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Faffywaffy wrote:
If only I cared...


Care enough to post.


Yeah, I had to walk 10km in the snow to my local library to post that. Naked. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways.


Please link evidence that it was uphill, both ways.


I doubt the fat **** can walk the length of himself.
SpeedY G0nZaleZ
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#37 - 2012-11-05 19:54:21 UTC
VOC you are doing it wrong.

You are already bitter as hell and you haven't even been disqualified yet. Wait to be disqualified and then you can be truly bitter. Like Hydra. Or Outbreak.
David Godfrey
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-11-06 00:19:11 UTC
SpeedY G0nZaleZ wrote:
VOC you are doing it wrong.

You are already bitter as hell and you haven't even been disqualified yet. Wait to be disqualified and then you can be truly bitter. Like Hydra. Or Outbreak.


Under what basis guy?

Don't let the void consume you...

Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-11-06 01:41:27 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Faffywaffy wrote:
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Faffywaffy wrote:
If only I cared...


Care enough to post.


Yeah, I had to walk 10km in the snow to my local library to post that. Naked. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways.


Please link evidence that it was uphill, both ways.


screw that, i just want evidence that it was naked

giggity

No sig.

SpeedY G0nZaleZ
Just a side dish
Outspoken Alliance
#40 - 2012-11-06 01:42:37 UTC
David Godfrey wrote:
SpeedY G0nZaleZ wrote:
VOC you are doing it wrong.

You are already bitter as hell and you haven't even been disqualified yet. Wait to be disqualified and then you can be truly bitter. Like Hydra. Or Outbreak.


Under what basis guy?


*sigh*

It was a joke...
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