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Okay CCP, it's time. Acknowledge the legitimacy of The New Order, James 315, and bumping.

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Natasha Liao
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#341 - 2012-11-05 14:58:07 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Actually, it is.

Just need to look at this thread. Lots of content.

Just look at the people he's annoying.
He changes the way they play, he forces them to react,
which means they are getting pushed from the usual train of actions ... hence it's content.

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't change it.
Your opinion is irrelevant.

It's still content and you prove it by interacting with him, directly or indirectly.
His actions influence your actions.
Wouldn't he do this, you wouldn't interact with him.

If you're unable to push your personal bias aside to see what's actually happening,
that's all your problem. Your opinions still stay irrelevant.

Lemmings. We love you in this game, because you're victims.

QFT.

Heaven forbid James would actually get you interacting with some of the other people playing this game. You're 'involved' and in some fashion 'engaged' - THE HORROR! That MONSTER!! Go to one of those ice systems he's claimed and compare the local chat to what it would usually be before he started. I read of people planning resistance movements, insurgent actions and 'fighting the man' on www.minerbumping.com. What did you miners do before James came along? Sit in an MMO moving a piece of ice every minute or so while tabing out to watch YouTube videos? You folks are playing Eve now. James is even adding a little value to your money spend...

You're using logic on an internet discussion forum. A rookie mistake, but one you'll soon learn to avoid. -Destiny Corrupted

Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#342 - 2012-11-05 15:11:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Morrigan LeSante
Natasha Liao wrote:
Go to one of those ice systems he's claimed and compare the local chat to what it would usually be before he started.


I did. Local read:

"x up for mining boost"
"x"
"x"
"x"


Aaaand that was about that. Add a smattering of suicide ganking on mission boats and you're about there.

I still suspect it's a donation scam (and a corker at that).
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#343 - 2012-11-05 17:23:50 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Natasha Liao wrote:
Go to one of those ice systems he's claimed and compare the local chat to what it would usually be before he started.


I did. Local read:

"x up for mining boost"
"x"
"x"
"x"


Aaaand that was about that. Add a smattering of suicide ganking on mission boats and you're about there.

I still suspect it's a donation scam (and a corker at that).

That was about it, for the amount of time you've spent there, on that particular day.
Mind you, i have no idea how he's operating, but this reminded me of Hek.

Some days i don't talk much, on others i create drama involving dozens. ^_^
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#344 - 2012-11-05 17:26:50 UTC
Natasha Liao wrote:
You folks are playing Eve now. James is even adding a little value to your money spend...


Sophistry ftw!

Roll
Besoina
Delicious Snacks
#345 - 2012-11-05 18:14:44 UTC
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.
Capt Lynch
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#346 - 2012-11-05 18:18:25 UTC
Besoina wrote:
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.


HAHAHA...there is not enough win in the world for that comment.
Anslo
Scope Works
#347 - 2012-11-05 18:47:55 UTC
Besoina wrote:
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.


Do you have chat logs or screen shots of that rambling? I'd love to see it Smile

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Clystan
Binaerie Heavy Industries
#348 - 2012-11-05 19:07:32 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StuFQisQKjo

This kind of thing is completely worth it :)



Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#349 - 2012-11-05 19:44:38 UTC
Besoina wrote:
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.


There is nothing we Agents love more than a miner who pokes his head up and says "LOOK AT ME!".

I'm back in town and will be in the Tolle Ice belt tonight. To quote a great man, "On my desk there is a sheet of paper."

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com

Besoina
Delicious Snacks
#350 - 2012-11-05 20:34:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Besoina
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Besoina wrote:
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.


There is nothing we Agents love more than a miner who pokes his head up and says "LOOK AT ME!".

I'm back in town and will be in the Tolle Ice belt tonight. To quote a great man, "On my desk there is a sheet of paper."



Unfortuantely for you, I've moved down south into null, as I grew bored of ice mining. Your little experiment just shows how much of a kindergarden playground high sec really is. At least in null, the rats can pose a greater challenge to my mining then you ever could.

P.S. My order of Pizza just arrived, extra win. Nom nom nom
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#351 - 2012-11-05 20:41:11 UTC
Besoina wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Besoina wrote:
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.


There is nothing we Agents love more than a miner who pokes his head up and says "LOOK AT ME!".

I'm back in town and will be in the Tolle Ice belt tonight. To quote a great man, "On my desk there is a sheet of paper."



Unfortuantely for you, I've moved down south into null, as I grew bored of ice mining. Your little experiment just shows how much of a kindergarden playground high sec really is. At least in null, the rats can pose a greater challenge to my mining then you ever could.

P.S. My order of Pizza just arrived, extra win. Nom nom nom


Sorry to have missed you. It seems to happen that way a lot. Miners suddenly find pressing business somewhere else...

It is a common occurance in the life of a belligerent undesirable....

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com

Nanatoa
#352 - 2012-11-06 09:46:39 UTC
Clystan wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StuFQisQKjo

This kind of thing is completely worth it :)




Awesome!

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#353 - 2012-11-06 10:09:48 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Besoina wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Besoina wrote:
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.


There is nothing we Agents love more than a miner who pokes his head up and says "LOOK AT ME!".

I'm back in town and will be in the Tolle Ice belt tonight. To quote a great man, "On my desk there is a sheet of paper."



Unfortuantely for you, I've moved down south into null, as I grew bored of ice mining. Your little experiment just shows how much of a kindergarden playground high sec really is. At least in null, the rats can pose a greater challenge to my mining then you ever could.

P.S. My order of Pizza just arrived, extra win. Nom nom nom


Sorry to have missed you. It seems to happen that way a lot. Miners suddenly find pressing business somewhere else...

It is a common occurance in the life of a belligerent undesirable....



Yeah funny that , miners not sticking around to be griefed under the thin veil of minerbumping.com. I bought some one into the game who really enjoyed bar all the greifing (and things like this is greifing ) and has now left, which is a shame really.

Tal

Nanatoa
#354 - 2012-11-06 10:15:21 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
(and things like this is greifing )


Is it? It seems CCP disagrees with you, because CCP has rejected petition after petition, not once agreeing with miners' claims that Miner Bumping is griefing.

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#355 - 2012-11-06 10:23:23 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
(and things like this is greifing )


Is it? It seems CCP disagrees with you, because CCP has rejected petition after petition, not once agreeing with miners' claims that Miner Bumping is griefing.




You keep telling yourself that ..... but at the end of the day its negative, doesn't bring anything to the game and has lost Eve (not the total reason but a contributing factor) another 3 subs..... Way to go you....


Tal
Nanatoa
#356 - 2012-11-06 10:28:08 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
You keep telling yourself that ..... but at the end of the day its negative, doesn't bring anything to the game


You have a double standard. What exactly does a solitary or afk ice miner bring to a MMORPG? If "contributing" is your Golden Standard, surely someone interacting with others contributes more than someone just sitting there next to a big icey rock?

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#357 - 2012-11-06 12:04:43 UTC
Besoina wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Besoina wrote:
He tried to bump my mack several times & kept failing, shouting something about his order (pizza?). I thought of popping you but then realized there is no Adult that would attack a child seriously.


There is nothing we Agents love more than a miner who pokes his head up and says "LOOK AT ME!".

I'm back in town and will be in the Tolle Ice belt tonight. To quote a great man, "On my desk there is a sheet of paper."



Unfortuantely for you, I've moved down south into null, as I grew bored of ice mining. Your little experiment just shows how much of a kindergarden playground high sec really is. At least in null, the rats can pose a greater challenge to my mining then you ever could.

P.S. My order of Pizza just arrived, extra win. Nom nom nom


You've moved into null while in a noob corp? Or are you one of those scaredy cat doesn't post with his main lot? Don't want the shame of revealing yourself as a miner?

If you can't deal with the New Order in highsec I can't imagine how you'll fare with the deadly "afk cloakers" of null. Probably make some whine threads about them.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#358 - 2012-11-06 12:20:25 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Yeah funny that , miners not sticking around to be griefed under the thin veil of minerbumping.com. I bought some one into the game who really enjoyed bar all the greifing (and things like this is greifing ) and has now left, which is a shame really.


I'm sorry, you're mistaken. It is not griefing. This is evident based on what CCP have said and the result of a thousand petitions.

Secondly, I do not consider it a shame that your terrible stupid friend no longer plays. EVE is not the game for him, you should be happy that he has wandered back to hello kitty online or whatever he actually likes, rather than lamenting the fact that he stopped playing a game that was never meant for him to begin with.

Talon SilverHawk wrote:
You keep telling yourself that ..... but at the end of the day its negative, doesn't bring anything to the game and has lost Eve (not the total reason but a contributing factor) another 3 subs..... Way to go you....


Again, you're mistaken. People who never wanted this type of game going elsewhere for their entertainment isn't really a big deal. As for contributing, the New Order and other forms of emergent gameplay and roleplaying are gigantic contributions, they're the kind of thing that makes EVE unique and famous. Know who DOESN'T contribute? Mining peasants who hit the F-keys, go afk for hours. The ones who don't partake in any big events, the ones who don't do anything except obsess over the amount in their wallet (even though the majority of them never use it to do anything interesting).

After all, when was the last time one of these barely-more-than-a-bot mining scum and their mindnumbing activities ended up with hundreds of thousands of views on a blog about their ongoings? When have they been responsible for multiple threadnaughts? Or created events that hundreds of players have responded to in game? Exactly.

James is contributing more to this game than you ever could.


Deatalious Maricadie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#359 - 2012-11-06 12:29:51 UTC
If it is a legitimate bumping the human body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#360 - 2012-11-06 12:33:31 UTC
Deatalious Maricadie wrote:
If it is a legitimate bumping the human body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.


What ?