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Getting into FW - Where to start?

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Arumus
Cryptic Spear
#1 - 2012-11-02 01:15:15 UTC
Hello Pilots, I'm a fairly experienced player with extensive Caldari and Missile skills. I currently fly a CS Nighthawk and have pretty good leadership skills. Of course, I can also fly a Drake and a well-fit Raven or RNI.

If I was looking to get into Faction Warfare, where would I start? Would any FW corps even be interested in taking me on? Is there money to be made in FW? If so, how much? How often is the PvP, and is it balanced? Which FW corps should I consider?

Thanks
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#2 - 2012-11-02 01:55:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarnak Wulf
Faction Warfare Guide

There are a lot of ships used for different sized plexes. The ships you listed are good but you may find yourself in a hookbill, condor, kestrel, hawk or caracal often as well. If that is ok and if you are indifferent to which faction you join feel free to look up Imperial Outlaws. We're based in Siseide and Egghelende.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#3 - 2012-11-02 06:23:43 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Faction Warfare Guide

There are a lot of ships used for different sized plexes. The ships you listed are good but you may find yourself in a hookbill, condor, kestrel, hawk or caracal often as well. If that is ok and if you are indifferent to which faction you join feel free to look up Imperial Outlaws. We're based in Siseide and Egghelende.


I endorse this post. ILAW are a good bunch in a great militia.
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#4 - 2012-11-02 08:50:22 UTC
If you just want to join FW to make ISK then you should join the side with highest tier.
If you want to join it for the fun factor of PVP and hunting, then you can take any site. Most important is that you join a decent FW-PVP corp with active players who will teach you how to work together etc.
Seraph Castillon
Death Metal Frogs
Ribbit.
#5 - 2012-11-02 10:05:13 UTC
Isk:
There is still good money in FW, but it's not the isk fountain it was a month ago. Therefore I'm sure there are better ways just to make money. Also: your standings with the opposing faction will tank, there is no longer a viable way around that.

Ships:
Forget about your Nighthawk and your Raven. You will mostly find yourself in small ships. Frigates, destroyers. That is unless your FC calls for bigger and better.

Pvp:
When in factional warfare you can pretty much always find something to kill these days. Solo is a bit harder, but not impossible.
That being said, with the new system, there are medium scale fleet engagements every single day now in the Gallente/Caldari war. The fight over chosen systems can be pretty intense. Most of the time you will need to be in one of the anointed corps to get in on these though.

Corp:
I suggest you join the NPC militia corp and from there on make your way into the recruitment channels of different corps. Try to get a feel for which one will fit you best.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-11-04 07:59:33 UTC
Arumus wrote:
Hello Pilots, I'm a fairly experienced player with extensive Caldari and Missile skills. I currently fly a CS Nighthawk and have pretty good leadership skills. Of course, I can also fly a Drake and a well-fit Raven or RNI.

If I was looking to get into Faction Warfare, where would I start? Would any FW corps even be interested in taking me on? Is there money to be made in FW? If so, how much? How often is the PvP, and is it balanced? Which FW corps should I consider?

Thanks
If you have a Reddit account, then Fweddit would be interested in your services.
Dan Carter Murray
#7 - 2012-11-04 08:13:27 UTC
what is your goal?


  1. do you want isk?
  2. A: join minmatar or gallente
  3. do you want fights?
  4. A: join anyone
  5. do you want to blob?
  6. A: join minmatar
  7. do you want to small gang?
  8. A: join amarr or caldari
  9. do you want a challenge?
  10. A: join amarr or caldari
  11. do you want to drop caps on everyone?
  12. A: join gallente or Happy Endings alliance in caldari
  13. do you want to be on the winning side?
  14. A: join gallente or caldari
  15. do you want to be the underdog?
  16. A: join amarr but caldari is a close 2nd

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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#8 - 2012-11-04 11:34:52 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
what is your goal?


  1. do you want isk?
  2. A: join minmatar or gallente
  3. do you want fights?
  4. A: join anyone
  5. do you want to blob?
  6. A: join minmatar
  7. do you want to small gang?
  8. A: join amarr or caldari
  9. do you want a challenge?
  10. A: join amarr or caldari
  11. do you want to drop caps on everyone?
  12. A: join gallente or Happy Endings alliance in caldari
  13. do you want to be on the winning side?
  14. A: join gallente or caldari
  15. do you want to be the underdog?
  16. A: join amarr but caldari is a close 2nd


Stupidly rich blobfag checking in. Cool

I see what you did there. Although i'm not sure how both Gallente and Caldari are on the winning side.

pew pew

Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-11-04 17:11:47 UTC
Zen Guerrilla wrote:

Stupidly rich blobfag checking in. Cool

I see what you did there. Although i'm not sure how both Gallente and Caldari are on the winning side.


Gallente and Caldari are both winning sides because you are much less likely to run into Dan Carter Murray (Amarr right?)and his cloud of hate and anger. Not having to deal with that makes you a winner.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#10 - 2012-11-04 21:36:18 UTC
FW provides the most frequent pvp in eve - with the possible exception of rvb. But faction war has allot more variety of ships and fleets.

Isk- The most recent changes means that the winning side will be making about 2xs as much for the same activity. You can probably make about 300 mill isk per hour if you choose the winning faction about 150 mill isk per hour if you choose the losing faction.

I Law is a great group that can fill you in on all things amarr militia. And we are recruiting.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Dan Carter Murray
#11 - 2012-11-04 21:51:25 UTC
Elvis Fett wrote:
Zen Guerrilla wrote:

Stupidly rich blobfag checking in. Cool

I see what you did there. Although i'm not sure how both Gallente and Caldari are on the winning side.


Gallente and Caldari are both winning sides because you are much less likely to run into Dan Carter Murray (Amarr right?)and his cloud of hate and anger. Not having to deal with that makes you a winner.


because caldari is close to getting tier 3.

minmatar aren't winners because...you can figure that one out <3

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senior moment
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-11-04 23:27:27 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
what is your goal?


  1. do you want isk?
  2. A: join minmatar or gallente
  3. do you want fights?
  4. A: join anyone
  5. do you want to blob?
  6. A: join minmatar
  7. do you want to small gang?
  8. A: join amarr or caldari
  9. do you want a challenge?
  10. A: join amarr or caldari
  11. do you want to drop caps on everyone?
  12. A: join gallente or Happy Endings alliance in caldari
  13. do you want to be on the winning side?
  14. A: join gallente or caldari
  15. do you want to be the underdog?
  16. A: join amarr but caldari is a close 2nd



Don't listen to old grumpy here.. well about how to make a choice of who to join anyway.. he does have some good advice .. sometimes. All sides will blob and overship when they get the chance, its the same in RVB, Null, wh's, etc. No one undocks to come second.
The best way to learn, like all of eve, is to join a good corp... If you in it for a mix of it all, I can recommend a great one... and yes we blob Twisted
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-11-05 02:01:33 UTC
get an Incursis, put some reppers on it, fit it for speed tanking , wait, wait....

never mind
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#14 - 2012-11-05 09:09:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Trinkets friend
When you join Minmatar militia you get a second HUD in your overview, with five buttons arranged left-to-right below your capacitor circle. They have these functions, from the left:
1 - Summon Blob. You press this when in the presence of Dan Carter Murray and a 1 Hit Dice Minmatar Plexing Alt is summoned to your plex. This may be pressed every 5 seconds until Dan Carter Murray cries "blob!" in Local, at which point your 1 HD plexing alts roll a D20. If they score a 15 or more, Dan Carter Murray is banished to Egghelende for 2 hours or until Fweddit forms its uber blob, whichever is less.

2 - Dispel Blob. Pressing this button works similar to an ECM burst, except that its efficacy is inversely proportional to the cubed root of all e-peen within d-scan. If you are facing Dan Carter Murray, who has no peen, he and all his compadres are dispelled to the 4th Level of Hell (generally taken to be Aridia). If you are facing a Fweddit blob, their epeens while individually small, will render this spell usless.

3 - Print ISK. This button prints billions in ISK every hour. it can be pressed infinite numbers of times, but is ineffective in the presence of any Plexing Alt, who will leech your ISK.

4 - Ignore Local. When you press this button, an algorithm parses local channel for any Fweddit characters and puts them on Ignore. When pressed in the presence of Poetic Stanziel, it also installs his blog address into your NetNanny list of banned addresses, and adds 50 gigapews to your e-peen.

5 - Instant Undock. When you press this button while docked in station, you gan an ability to actually undock from Hek, Boundless Creation factory, even in the 23.5 hours of the day when it is camped by Cynthia Nezmor or Project Homosexual. When pressed in Lowsec, this button malfunctions and you instead undock in a Velator. Never fear, the Amarr will always run away from your Velator.

So as you can see, there are massive OP advantages to joining Minmatar.
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#15 - 2012-11-05 10:21:45 UTC
Nothing to say but i just wanted to see how often i could get my name on the warfare and tactics board as seems it is all it's used for.


Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-11-05 10:57:26 UTC
I am a fairly new pilot. 6 weeks old, less than 2million SP.

I want to join FW however...

Is FW even a good idea for a new player?
Is FW viable solo? I'll be mainly flying a frigate.
Do I need to join a FW corp? I don't really want to leave my old corp.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#17 - 2012-11-05 14:50:03 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
I am a fairly new pilot. 6 weeks old, less than 2million SP.

I want to join FW however...

1)Is FW even a good idea for a new player?
2)Is FW viable solo? I'll be mainly flying a frigate.
3)Do I need to join a FW corp? I don't really want to leave my old corp.



1)Yes, 2)Yes, 3)No but you should. If your corp won't change to faction war then you must leave it.

If you are new to pvp you want to go solo may want to try rvb first. Its a bit more limitted in the types of ships and such, plus you will be able to get quite a few more decent frigate fights per hour. FW you are looking at about 1 fight per 1.5 hours rvb you should be able to double that.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

marketjacker
Mr. Clean Corp..
#18 - 2012-11-05 15:41:14 UTC
Just quit it's a terrible place and a haven for mentally crippled man children.
Merely Runaway
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-11-05 17:32:07 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:

I am a fairly new pilot. 6 weeks old, less than 2million SP.

I want to join FW however...

Is FW even a good idea for a new player?
Is FW viable solo? I'll be mainly flying a frigate.
Do I need to join a FW corp? I don't really want to leave my old corp.




1) Yes

2) Yes-ish

3) No but do. You'll get more help, more fights and generally have more fun.



I joined EVE and FW almost immediately before Inferno which was absolutely insane in terms of fighting (I have a brilliant memory of limping home to Arzad in an unfitted Rifter at about 4am on the morning of the Inferno patch - check out Susan Black's blog www.gamerchick.net for some vids from that time). Looking back I didn't do much more than make up the numbers but wow what an introduction. For me, joining FW ironically made lowsec much safer because suddenly you know who to avoid. As a new player it's a great idea if pvp is what you're after. Ignore marketjacker. Nullsec types like him don't have a very good track record of winning in lowsec.

There are loads of fights available in the warzone but pure solo pvp is still tricky because although things do even out with skill and experience eventually, at the 2mil SP mark, age is still a significant factor. If you want to win occasionally that is. To start with you'll want to take fights with people who are about the same age as yourself and they are tricky to find but then that's probably fairly true of anywhere. Things will improve though. I baited this slicer that thought I was an easy kill. http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17061 He's got about x6 the SP I have and his ship was worth x6 mine. My alliance-comrades came in and finished the job but by then he was neuted, scrammed and causing minimal damage so it was only a matter of time before he died. Things will improve and the buzz you'll get will be well worth it Big smile

I'm not saying that you won't get fights from the start because you will, loads of them. I have only 8mil SP so I'm still an extremely young player compared with many in the warzone and I am on just short of 200 killmails. Most of those are small gang and fleet kills but it's pretty exciting tbh. On 2mil SP you can make the biggest impact in scout and tackle roles where it is not SP but RL skills that make the biggest difference. Join fleets, get on comms, join a FW corp/alliance. I would personally recommend Iron Oxide. The nicest, best and most competent of all the lowsec alliances Cool ...although I'm not sure if we're recruiting atm.

Getting into the better and more interesting fleets and fleet fights is easier when you're in a FW corp/alliance. People don't generally trust General Militia on account of all the alts, spais, idiots, etc.
Dan Carter Murray
#20 - 2012-11-05 18:34:59 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
I am a fairly new pilot. 6 weeks old, less than 2million SP.

I want to join FW however...

Is FW even a good idea for a new player?
Is FW viable solo? I'll be mainly flying a frigate.
Do I need to join a FW corp? I don't really want to leave my old corp.


I started FW 2 weeks after I started playing EVE. it's rough at first but you end up learning a lot.

marketjacker/TheRusHunter wrote:

Just quit it's a terrible place and a haven for mentally crippled man children.


\o/ more from the peanut gallery! keep 'em coming!

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