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Musicians in Eve?

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Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#21 - 2012-10-27 19:00:44 UTC
Tavin Aikisen wrote:

Would it be fair to say that hearing that language would give a very slight taste of what caldanese would sound like?


well what ive figured from the Napanii primer from thats been used for reference in caldari language for a while now in backstage and here. (which you can find by googling "Napanii primer") the vocals are a lot similar to finnish combined with japanese languages use of syllables.

i find it something of a shame that our Japanese friends haven't taken up EVE fiction same manner as most since id love to figure it out more with someone that's familiar with traditional songs, poems and stories and do something of a comparison between the two to see if we could find parallels in the Napanii primer. since what Ive understood Japanese doesn't have the suffix structures that are so flexible that they can change meanings of most words very easily, which makes Finnish so bloody difficult language (its fairly hard for even us native speakers)

that last bit might be over-thinking or over-analysis on my part :)
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#22 - 2012-10-29 01:05:14 UTC
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Do the Amarr just ban music unless it's religious?

Well not ban it, but is not so popular if it isn't religious.(read about that somewhere on evewiki)
I think folk music could be pretty popular in the Empire, like Peter Paul and Mary or something similar. On the other hand they would probably got 86'ed by the Theology Council for some of their songs.
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#23 - 2012-11-04 14:06:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Esrevid Nekkeg
In the EvE universe, and especially in the subculture of Pod-pilots, I can certainly imagine a band like Disaster Area to exist.

I would even buy a ticket!


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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2012-11-05 12:57:11 UTC
The Amarr do not ban non-religious music, but as mentioned, it's a matter of popularity. Certain topics would also be considered taboo among the Amarr (sex, drugs, and rock n roll are right out).

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Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#25 - 2012-11-05 13:42:51 UTC
CCP have often mentioned that the sound and music in EVE eventually needs to be looked at. Would racial music be a possibility? Even without lyrics?

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#26 - 2012-11-05 14:41:01 UTC
It certainly sounds like a cool idea.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#27 - 2012-11-05 14:42:33 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
It certainly sounds like a cool idea.


So when's your first hit single coming out then?

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C C P
C C P Alliance
#28 - 2012-11-05 14:46:38 UTC
It's a funny thing...

Back when I was doing the Midna story arc, one of the other Mercury dudes was like "Oh, hey, I know a really good singer and I bet I could convince her to record a song for us to release" and I was like "Hell yes!" but then it fell through for various reasons.

As for me, you wouldn't want to hear me sing. At my best, I am an out-of-tune Brian Molko.

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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-11-07 22:28:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
Naraish Adarn wrote:
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
Would it be fair to say that hearing that language would give a very slight taste of what caldanese would sound like?
well what ive figured from the Napanii primer from thats been used for reference in caldari language for a while now in backstage and here. (which you can find by googling "Napanii primer") the vocals are a lot similar to finnish combined with japanese languages use of syllables. i find it something of a shame that our Japanese friends haven't taken up EVE fiction same manner as most since id love to figure it out more with someone that's familiar with traditional songs, poems and stories and do something of a comparison between the two to see if we could find parallels in the Napanii primer. since what Ive understood Japanese doesn't have the suffix structures that are so flexible that they can change meanings of most words very easily, which makes Finnish so bloody difficult language (its fairly hard for even us native speakers) that last bit might be over-thinking or over-analysis on my part :)


I'm not Japanese, but I'm a 'Japanophile' who studied the language and traditional culture and lived in the country a few years. True, Japanese nouns don't change as they do in Western languages. There's not much emphasis on changing nouns depending on whether it is the subject, or the object or singular or plural. The verbs do change, depending on the meaning to be expressed. For example:
-taberu - to eat/will eat [in the future]
-tabeta - ate
-tabete iru - is eating
-taberareru - to be eaten/will be eaten
-tabesaseru - to be made to eat (to be fed) /will be made to eat (fed)

If you're using more polite/formal speech, then there's a different verb ending you use. For example, taberu becomes tabemasu and tabeta become tabemashita. There's also a super-polite form, but that's like a whole different set of vocabulary. Crude tabeta (ate) gets booted out, in favor of meshiagata ("rice (food) rose up").

But generally, the verb endings are about the only grammatical rules to learn in Japanese. The nouns and adjectives don't change much, so as you said, it's a very flexible language. In some ways the flexibility can make the language seem vague and imprecise in conveying information. Which is kind of the way Japanese culture likes it. Smile But on the other hand, it is very expressive poetically or psychologically, because it has a huge lexicon of very subtle and nuanced adjectives and nouns to use. A single Japanese word might have meanings that would take a whole sentence English sentence to explain.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on about a favorite topic. Smile If you want to do some comparisons on Finnish and Japanese language and music, let me know. I know nothing at all of Finnish, and I'm just a foreignor who studied Japanese as a foreignor, but I'll contribute what I can.
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