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Refocusing: Firing the people who deserve it

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Dis0wned
Brack Regen
#61 - 2011-10-19 20:36:39 UTC
CCP Please DONT Fire Zymurgist and Fallout, Fire CCP Soundwave because he's a DOUCHEBAG.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2011-10-19 20:37:19 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:

Who will take their place??


Goonsquad

Quote:

Who is the new voice of EvE to the playerbase?


CCP Mittani

Confirmed that Goons are taking over community relations. Trust us...everything will be okay.
Cailais
The Red Pill Taker Group
Exxitium
#63 - 2011-10-19 20:37:22 UTC
I think its safe to say that those monocles didn't deliver the 20% increase in profits CCP wanted.

No prizes for guessing where that 20% of cash is now coming from.

C.
Janos Saal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2011-10-19 20:37:22 UTC
Hilmar; you're a god damned moron.

EVE is dead

Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2011-10-19 20:40:19 UTC
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
So, apparently a big majority of the 20% that got fired from CCP are the community devs. Well known names are Zymurgist and Fallout.

The CEO (or whoever) of this company decides do ruin the game's development, because money is more important than satisfied customers/developers and also better than a good, playable game.

After he realizes he ran into a wall with his head in front, he decides to fire the employees who had to deal with the shitstorm caused by the outraged community.

Usually after things like this it's the CEO going, not the employees who have nothing at all to do with this whole thing.



It's Hilmar's ******* game. He's majority share holder. He does what he wants.

Stop ******* bitching about people getting fired (yes it sucks that good people got the axe but they needed the money or the game goes kaput), and be happy he's focusing the game on spaceships again.

Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2011-10-19 20:42:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
CCP will continue firing one popular employee per month until subscription growth resumes.


Now it's your turn.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2011-10-19 20:43:44 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:

It's Hilmar's ******* game. He's majority share holder. He does what he wants.




And he woke up at some point a few years back and decided, DRIVING IT INTO THE GROUND. Was the direction he wanted.

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Jashmyne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2011-10-19 20:44:24 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Btw, the community people are always the first to get the axe, it's very unfortunate, but that's the way it usually goes.

I hope all of them get work VERY soon.

That is sadly true.
If CCP wants to focus on development and at the same time needing to lay off people, getting rid of the community team would be the first step. They don't work on the code and overall speaking does hardly anything when it comes to development.
Their area lies elsewhere which CCP apperently has no need for right now.
Can always hope that with the winter expansion that people will return and Fallout and the rest might get re-hired or someone just as suitable.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#69 - 2011-10-19 20:45:07 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
actually it's never the ceo who gets fired



No they usually "retire/resign" with a big severance package.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

Killgor
Rocks and Roll Inc
#70 - 2011-10-19 20:46:37 UTC
Listen, in this economy, it's not surprising at all to have this sort of a "mass" layoff. And I think 20% would count as "mass". There have been plenty of much better companies than CCP in the last 36mo that have done similar layoffs.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2011-10-19 20:48:13 UTC
Jashmyne wrote:
[quote=Barakkus]
Their area lies elsewhere which CCP apperently has no need for right now.


NO they are exactly what CCP needed right now. They just fired the very people they needed to help fix their epic Helmar blunders.

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SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2011-10-19 20:48:19 UTC
Fallout and Z cant go CCP
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#73 - 2011-10-19 20:48:55 UTC
Killgor wrote:
Listen, in this economy, it's not surprising at all to have this sort of a "mass" layoff. And I think 20% would count as "mass". There have been plenty of much better companies than CCP in the last 36mo that have done similar layoffs.


but the game is doing well. it said so in the blog

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!

stoicfaux
#74 - 2011-10-19 20:49:14 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
What the hell? Zymurgist and Fallout? That doesn't make sense... they released a dev bog about how they are firing 20% of the workforce to focus on eve and dust for now... This makes the playerbase happy.

And then they fire what are basically eve celebrities, in the same stroke? Thus making the community angry? Maybe we don't have the whole story, maybe those 2 quit. I can't believe anyone is that dumb.

Yes, but as Grey Stormshadow pointed out, if you have to lay off Twenty Freaking Percent of your workforce, it's just not going to be pretty. For all we know, CCP cut the community managers to save dev resources.


Also, the cynical contrarian in me thinks that most of the player base has a "actions speak louder than words" attitude, in which case why would CCP need PR guys? Straight

However, I do agree that charismatic and respected PR/community reps can make subs sticky, and I too, was surprised by the loss of Zymurgist and Fallout until I realized that this is Eve, and charisma is the least useful attribute. (...and now we all know why I don't do comedy for a living.)

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Hentes Zsemle
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2011-10-19 20:50:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hentes Zsemle
Im probably just going to be punching in the air, but the stupidity of the recent threads and posts really annoy me and i am bored, so here it is:

You have absolutely no idea if the people got fired deserved it, from a business standpoint, as you do not take part in said business whatsoever. You've only seen some employess writing stuff. You have no idea what they are doing in 99% of their time.

And firing the managers, thoose employes probably have been invonved in making dollar millions for CCP, and now they managed to lose a tiny little part of it with a few bad decisions. You don't just fire someone couse he/she made a mistake after years of moneymaking for the company. Such things only happen in movies. And probably said managers took a large part in this refocusing aswell.

Same thing goes for Hilmar.
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#76 - 2011-10-19 20:56:40 UTC
Next up... CCP terminates Chribba's account.
Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#77 - 2011-10-19 20:58:18 UTC
Palovana wrote:
Next up... CCP terminates Chribba's account.



How does this even make sense.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#78 - 2011-10-19 20:59:14 UTC
Dunno, this cutting 20% of the entire company somehow doesnt jive with the assurances of how well the game is doing to me

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
#79 - 2011-10-19 21:00:17 UTC
hopefully, this price will not be forgotten.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2011-10-19 21:01:37 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
Palovana wrote:
Next up... CCP terminates Chribba's account.



How does this even make sense.



Its CCP logic.

Why would it make sense.

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