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Broadcast buttons more user friendly

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Lumifragger Ghentenaar
Novaton BVBA
#1 - 2012-11-04 13:12:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Lumifragger Ghentenaar
The following idea is a minor patch to the fleet UI that will improve the player-experience when flying with other capsuleers in a fleet. The idea is to give confirmation to the pilot whether or not his broadcast - click had been registered by the client.

The issue :
When you click on a broadcast button (ex: 'need shield'), the only way to verify whether or not the broadcast had been registered by the client is to look at the broadcast history yourself and check if your broadcast message appeared. However, since it is not yet possible to open 2 sepperate broadcast history windows with each its own filter, a good pilot turns off the broadcast shield messages in his filter to avoid accidentially shooting a fleetmember instead of a broadcasted target.
Therefore, there is no way to tell if your broadcast came trough (It is also somewhat unclear as to which actions are delayed by TIDI), an unfortunate result of this lack of visibility is that some pilots start spam-clicking the shield broadcast button.

My Suggestion:
This patch to the fleet window is entirely client side. It involves the broadcast button flashing for a second (or its border turning bold) to indicate the broadcast was registered by the client. It tells the pilot that your broadcast has gone trough. While the broadcast button is flashing (or any animation you wish to put to it), it becomes uninteractable. It is a small fix that will only take like an hour of coding, and will improve the gameplay of many pilots flying in large fleets, logistics and dps pilots alike.

Open to suggestions and questions!

LIKE AND REPLY!
staafsak
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-11-04 14:33:21 UTC
There is an option to turn off some of the notifications you know?


Example; When you're a DPS you shouldnt have to see those broadcast for shields as its not important for you.


Use broadcast settings and change it when you are doing Logi work or w/e.
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-11-04 15:39:27 UTC
Cleaned the off topic posts from this thread. Please refrain from personal attacks and stay on topic, thank you - ISD Type40.

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Lumifragger Ghentenaar
Novaton BVBA
#4 - 2012-11-04 16:16:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lumifragger Ghentenaar
staafsak wrote:
There is an option to turn off some of the notifications you know?


Example; When you're a DPS you shouldnt have to see those broadcast for shields as its not important for you.


Use broadcast settings and change it when you are doing Logi work or w/e.


You have clearly not read the entire OP or did not understand.
This is about more user - friendly broadcast buttons
CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2012-11-04 16:34:06 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Dolan
Deleted a few posts for being off-topic and trolling.

Edit: Please be bros and don't make me babysit this thread.

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CCP Explorer
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C C P Alliance
#6 - 2012-11-04 17:55:10 UTC
Per CCP karkur's suggestion then you might want to post this idea in this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167795&find=unread

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Lumifragger Ghentenaar
Novaton BVBA
#7 - 2012-11-04 18:00:03 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Per CCP karkur's suggestion then you might want to post this idea in this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167795&find=unread


Done
thanks !
Ming Tso
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-11-04 19:54:12 UTC
:facepalm:

As someone that flies in fleets enough to know what a "Broadcast Shield" button is, I assume the reason for this post is that you are subtly accusing Logistics Pilots of being able to see your requests for Broadcast Shield, and blissfully ignoring you and letting you die because, "They don't like you."

You are therefore looking for evidence that you can take to someone in your command structure that shows that Logistics pilots are seeing your broadcasts but not repping you, so that your command structure will punish the said Logistics pilots for letting you die.


I invite you to try flying logistics.


Really. I do.

Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#9 - 2012-11-05 00:43:34 UTC
I'll bet you don't even basic education.
Angelar Porthar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-11-05 00:59:25 UTC
Do you even BASIC EDUCATION?
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#11 - 2012-11-05 01:03:49 UTC
Who is this random mofo?
John Dowland
Lame Pheasant Gecko Squad
#12 - 2012-11-05 02:43:55 UTC
I think it's worth pointing out that the Shield icon pops up on your ship bracket when you broadcast. Noting this in your OP might allure you to avoid claims that you don't BASIC EDUCATION.

Soberly,
Random guy.
Lumifragger Ghentenaar
Novaton BVBA
#13 - 2012-11-05 07:55:13 UTC
Ming Tso wrote:

I assume the reason for this post is that you are subtly accusing Logistics Pilots of being able to see your requests for Broadcast Shield, and blissfully ignoring you and letting you die

You are therefore looking for evidence so that your command structure will punish the said Logistics pilots for letting you die.


Lumifragger Ghentenaar wrote:

It involves the broadcast button flashing for a second (or its border turning bold) to indicate the broadcast was registered by the client.(It is also somewhat unclear as to which actions are delayed by TIDI)
it becomes uninteractable

an unfortunate result of this lack of visibility is that some pilots start spam-clicking the shield broadcast button.


Typo in OP was fixed. "Broadcast flashing" replaced by "Broadcast button flashing"
The argument you raise about
Ming Tso wrote:
evidence

is therefore invalid.






Lumifragger Ghentenaar
Novaton BVBA
#14 - 2012-11-05 07:57:54 UTC
John Dowland wrote:
I think it's worth pointing out that the Shield icon pops up on your ship bracket when you broadcast. Noting this in your OP might allure you to avoid claims that you don't BASIC EDUCATION.

Soberly,
Random guy.

Interesting note, however my suggestion will make it more visible and user friendly.

John Dowland wrote:
Soberly,

lies :)

Cedric deBouilard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-11-05 10:50:00 UTC
If everyone were to BASIC EDUCATION, then we wouldn't need to discuss these things.

"This patch to the fleet window is entirely client side."

if you want to know whether your shield request broadcast reached others, you'd need a confirmation from server, which automatically invalidates your statement above.

do you BASIC EDUCATION helps us understand such programming intricacies.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#16 - 2012-11-05 12:24:50 UTC
My educate is really basic but buttons of broadcastedness could be more friendly to user.
Lumifragger Ghentenaar
Novaton BVBA
#17 - 2012-11-05 12:39:05 UTC
Cedric deBouilard wrote:

if you want to know whether your shield request broadcast reached others, you'd need a confirmation from server, which automatically invalidates your statement above.


Lumifragger wrote:
to indicate the broadcast was registered by the client.


Apparently BASIC EDUCATION is not part of the criteria when applying to Test Alliance
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2012-11-05 12:53:52 UTC
Deleted some blatant trolling.

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Ming Tso
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-11-05 13:07:10 UTC
Why don't you just press the Broadcast Button ONCE and if you don't recieve reps, die, apply for reimbursement, and get another ship and get out there?

or maybe FLY LOGI SO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN SOME IDIOT SPAMS THE BROADCAST SHIELD BUTTON WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S THE PRIMARY AND GET REPS ON THEM.
Vernn Miller
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-05 13:23:39 UTC
I don`t even know what this thread is about, I`m just posting.

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