EVE General Discussion

Thats not how it works. You dont reward bad people.

The op was in fact, being sarcastic. Read his post...

anyone that has posted anything anywhere have had interactions with these people. To many they were the "face" of the company since everyone else were pretending eve wasnt a trainwreck. Blaster, Rockets, Supercaps, Null sec, Low sec, Faction Warfare, Mining, Industry. and many other issues that drove people away I hope will be addressed SWIFTLY. I would trade in your transparent blogs for immediate results anyday. Im sure im not the only one that feels my time, energy,and money over the last few years is on the verge of being for nothing. These are hard times for everyone but one thing we could count on was Eve, sadly that doesnt seem to be the case anymore.

there's 2 sides to the nickel here.

1- lower overhead and focus on core design and implementation.

2- lose communication and simply release product via standard channel and patch note process which can be 'done' by the intern.


given the language in CCP Swollen Head's apology letter and prior, we can see that communication as dictated by Head was never really communication. it was standard press release format with little or no discussion. i find it likely that internally Head saw some of the community team as being the bad guys, as they were the one's bringing together and forwarding status reports on community states within the forums and outside the forums (your community is bigger than one board, you research all of it).

with the focus on 'improved communications' being a priority within the refocusing of eve it simply stands as a 'we watch what you do, not what you say' moment. here we see you do this, and it's not a positive step.


/something smells in the left turn to albuquerque as a certain rabbit might comment.

What the hell? Zymurgist and Fallout? That doesn't make sense... they released a dev bog about how they are firing 20% of the workforce to focus on eve and dust for now... This makes the playerbase happy.

And then they fire what are basically eve celebrities, in the same stroke? Thus making the community angry? Maybe we don't have the whole story, maybe those 2 quit. I can't believe anyone is that dumb.

edit: wait Wrangler too? ok fallout and zym i can almost take... but Wrangler? **** OFF CCP. I joined back in 2007 and he was there helping me on day one. This is BS.

I just think its insane that they are cutting WOD development instead of scrapping the **** storm that is DUST 514.

Yeah, this is ridiculous.

CCP made a commitment to more open communication, and deeper involvement with player feedback, and more forum activity to respond to players.

Zymurgist and Fallout were great assets to the playerbase, and did a great job of keeping us informed with as much as they were allowed to share with us.

I cannot fathom how firing the people that deal with the EvE community can be good for the company when this whole crisis stems from not being in touch with the community.

CCP management, this was an 3PIC fail. We still applaud the work being done for Winter Expansion, but this was all about COMMUNITY in the first place. And the two people the community relied on the most, and were connected to the most, are now gone.

Who will take their place??

Who is the new voice of EvE to the playerbase?

What will be done to ensure the community is taken care of, if you've done away with the two primary people dealing with the community??

I dont expect we'll get explanations for every internal company action, but we'd all love to know where this is going.

What a depressing turn of events. I just can't imagine how this fits in with "Lets focus on EvE now".

When in desperate need of good communications they fired the only people we felt were doing communication with us.

Really CCP....REALLY!

Edit
I have to add that even if they realize this is another MAJOR F UP, hiring people you shouldn't have fired will not fix this damage CCP.

Ya those guys at AGI and the other billion dollar bail out firms got so NOT rewarded by their bad behavior....
Hilmar's spanking must have just been horrible. He was after all the one with the "lets see what they do an not what they say" attitude after all.

Actually, it looks like as far as management types go it should be said you dont reward the hard working ppl that do what theyre told.

JItas navy will shoot me.