EVE General Discussion

I'm currently learning the game, and being all but 5 days old in the game I am by no means experienced.

I like to read the forum and blog posts about the game in general, I think EVE has an awesome community as a whole...

A subject I seem to be crossing time and time again - is the one of carebears vs their opposites....

The argument that the risk of being ganked and losing your assets is "unfair", or discourages new players to join the game, should not be as "brutal" as it is, etc etc...


When I read on this subject, I refer to EVE, the description of the game, and how it was designed.

It seems to me like the game has been designed to be this way, people can gank you, people can steal from you, people can scam you, people can do what ever they want to you... to me that is the game, that is how the game is designed and intended... that is EVE.

And that is why I downloaded the free trial a few days ago, and that is why on my second day in the game... I logged into my account management to enter my credit card details and pay for this amazing game.


My opinion on the subject of "carebears" is one of little attention, sympathy or consideration... I think that "carebears" should be seen and not heard, they should receive no attention or consideration from the developers of this great game, and the reason for that is simple...

The things that carebears disagree with/want to be changed in order to benefit their own doings within the game... these things are EVE... that is the game, the way it was intended to be... if somebody is able to target and engage you as a target in hisec, and the game mechanics allow for that to be done... that is the design of the game, if you don't like that then you may choose to stop playing...?

People are subscribing to the game because it is a great game, "a sandbox risk/reward hardcore game in which you are never safe"... THAT is appealing, that is thrilling and that is fun... if you change that, and alter the description to "safe mining where you can mine asteroid belts and never be killed"... that is not appealing, that to me sounds boring and I would have never entered my credit card details and given my money to CCP if that was the case.


Just my opinion on the trending topic, thanks.

I'm not sure what you mean by this... maybe you didn't read my post properly? I haven't yet been ganked in the game, though I'm quite excited to experience it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=168777

I have been playing EVE for a matter of days... though I have been playing games for many years, I'm a fast learner, I love to read and research about the games I am playing, and forums are the first thing I tend to look for when picking up a new game - especially MMORPGs

little lad, i am 28, i have been playing MMOS since i was 13 years old, i am a very hard core gamer, however, that post above tis is rubbish. My first week in eve i spent dieing non stop and learning the game.

you are a alt, trying to sway the pve players to the pvp *risk vs reward* nonsense

hush

Awesome to see white quake putting noobs in their place.

How do I play this game?: Log in.

What are the tutorials?: Tutorials are usually things to help you learn the basics.

Where can I find a walk through of EVE?: Well personally I use google, reading through guides and tutorials on getting started in PvP, ships, fits and their roles.

What should I do to make the most isk?: This is something I have not researched at this point, I was lucky enough to have some really awesome guys reach out to my first forum post and help me out with some isk to get started, major help.

Most new players have no idea what a gank is until it happens to them?: Ganking is not exclusive to EVE, although I believe in EVE - a gank is when players gain intel on a ship carrying valuable cargo, and then kill it to loot the cargo... ganked.

Lol, this almost sounds like "those greasy liberals shouldn't be allowed a voice!" Not to get political or anything...

People from both sides of the fence whine endlessly about things they don't like in the game. A lot of the time, it's pathetic like "I don't want to be ganked flying through my own high-sec just because I decided to join my faction militia," or "nerf the Falcon, it's ECM is too powerful and they keep killing me."

It would be foolish, though, to ignore one group of players just because they don't fit your expectations of how the game should be played, and every now and again, a legitimate complaint comes up that the devs have to deal with. Like the broken incursion mechanics when it first started up and people were getting concorded on incursions in high sec.

Everyone playing the game has an opinion - how seriously that opinion is taken is not determined by how you choose to play the game, but by the merits of the opinion.

kewlfact: white quake claims to be a veteran from 2003, and thinks ganking is ~bad~ for eve.

I can fix that if you'd like.

Nah, I'm too stricken with cute overload whenever I run into newbies. I'd probably just stalk you in a covert ops ship and occasionally throw ISK into your wallet.

A FIVE DAY OLD PLAYER THAT USES FORAMS AND KNOWS WAT GANKING IS? UMPOSSIBLE.