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BOND 20 B, Rate 10%

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Author
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#1 - 2012-11-04 22:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Kell Tarhun
Hello fellow MD investors!

I am looking for a 20 B loan to increase my trading abilities.

Summary
Loan size: 20B (20 Billion ISK)
Min Investment: 750 M
Rate: 10%
Collateral: None
Start date: Nov 8th (earlier if ISK received later)
Maturity: February 8th

What do i need the ISK for?I currently have about 9B in ISK which i use for regional hub trading but I need more ISK to increase my trading ability.
I trade between regions and am averaging 140-250 M ISK profit per day, depending on the length I play.

With the inject of 20B I can effectively trade more and make more ISK. Means more ISK for me and a nice easy profit for the investors.

Terms
The loan will start on Nov 8th as long as all ISK has been received. (Will start later if waiting for ISK).
If you wish to pull out before the 30 days you will not receive any interest.
10% interest will be paid within 48 hours in December. (+30 days from start date if loan starts later)

I will keep you up to date on this thread of my progress or via evemail if that's your preference

Risks
~ I do not carry more than 1B ISK worth of items at one time on my alts. (limits the risk of getting popped).
~ No profit - I don't see this happening, if it does then the investment & interest will be paid out of my own pocket.
~ Wardec - my transports alts belong to a NPC's corp.

FAQ.
Q: Previous Loans?
A: Well you can find them on your own :)

Q: Alts? Mains?
A: Kell Tarhun is my main character. My alts and transport account i keep confidential far away from curious eyes for station trading / hauling / freighter.

Q: No collateral?
A: Confirming no collateral.

Q: Will you steal my ISK?
A: I have no interest in stealing or running away with the ISK. I have no reason to do so. You guys will be helping me make ISK so in turn i am willing to pay the interest.

Q: How can u add me to list of investors
A: Contact me in game mail. I will place you here in this topic in list of investors or will add you as anonymous.

Q: I got question. (place for it)?
A: Most of them i will keep unanswered however if you real investor i will be more than happy to read them in my mail box and answer to them in game. Do not expect answer to any question here unless you are investors from list.
All question of investors who invested and are on topic list will be answered from 1h to 48h ( because of RL )

Questions in topic will remain unanswered.
Kell Tarhun
Nanatoa
#2 - 2012-11-04 22:49:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Nanatoa
Well after three locked topics finally one which has a chance at staying open. Congratulations!
(And yes, the fact that you have problems with sticking to rules is relevant for investors - who knows if your account may be banned while it still has an investors assets on it?)

How exactly do you need an Obelisk for 'station trading'? Isn't the whole idea of station trading being in a station and trading there?

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

flakeys
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-11-04 22:54:09 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Now i am astouned to be honest the mods let you keep up with this , but that does not mean i nor MD will just let this slip by.Now i'll be heading to bed in a minute so if you're lucky you can keep this going on for some time.Though i am hoping someone with a little more firm grip on the forum will come in between.If not i'll see a new thread again tomorrow and yet again wwill be inclined to give the same copy - paste and an adjusted remark.


So a direct copy of a copy from a closed thread about the other closed thread.



So linky one :closed 9 hours ago by mods same loan request

linky two : closed 45 mins ago by mods same loan request

linky three : closed 30 mins ago by mods same loan request


Now i will just copy pastes regarding the investment:

You're loosing your head here kell and i'd advice to back offf before ccp finds you're taking it one step too far.


Now over to commenting your loan request.All valid points as to why this request looks scamtastic has been covered in the above link.But with yoour stance only growing stronger against moderation and comments i can't help but feel the urge is strong to get X amount of isk in a certain time for some reason.A reason we can only guess about offcourse.

As i sad in the other thread if you can not handle criticism towards your loan request wich yet again is VALID or can't handle the CCP moderation then why on earth do you think creating the exact same topic on the forums would help you in ANY WAY.

IF you have something to post wich only goes for your ''investors'' then make a mailing list for it.Investors btw of wich we have so far seen NOT ONE.




for example if you look at this offer and want to narrow some points down wich might suggest a probability off scam it would go like this :

-Lender makes clear that he wants to remove all negative criticism from the thread.As such making it ''seem'' like the offfer lacks no security flaws.

-Lender is in an npc corp.As such he can do as he pleases without retaliation.

-Lender said in a previous bond that his work was supplying for the -A- market , a market where -A- has no foot any more and as such he relies on TEST and friends to be able to use the stations.

-Lender links a previous investment to wich ALL characters who invested where marked as being anonymous.This can happen but it is HIGHLY uncommon and in a lot of cases means someone is trying to build up reputation to work towards a bigger scam/theft using either alts or anonymous investors

And then we add linky wich draws attention to the question about loan seekers honesty :


eve24 regarding OP

Now as said you can keep changing this but in the end the person behind the loan does not change no matter how small you make the investment.At this point anyone investing in this shoudl really loose enough isk to leave the game for good.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#4 - 2012-11-04 22:58:15 UTC
FALSE ACCUSATION
ALL MY POSTS DIFFERS

such things considered your opinion got no sense
flakeys
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-11-04 23:03:00 UTC
The linkies are there and i can not change the posts from others , as such people can read exactly what went on and decide on their own from that point.

You've had three strikes so far wiich should mean ''' you're out'' but appearantly you're not.Good for you that you get to keep your freedom to post.It also means i also have the freedom to post flaws in your loan request and at a certain point one should start to ask himself if that pile of bad publicity is not killing the chance of a loan.

As you have not asked this yourself i can only narrow this down to either being stubborn , simple or in dire need of a quick isk investment.But that last is my own views offcourse.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#6 - 2012-11-04 23:05:26 UTC
More than happy to put wall of text against my simple response

COPY/PASTE -> Compare -> You should see diffrence

But moving back to my policy.
As mentioned i will do my best to answer on in game mails.
The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Green's Bicycle Shop
#7 - 2012-11-04 23:08:17 UTC
/me *Takes popcorn out of his microwave, pulls up a chair, and begins eating without taking his eyes off the screen.*
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2012-11-04 23:18:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Edited.

Never mind, locking this thread too.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-11-04 23:19:00 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
No need for popcorn i'm done.

If the devs/mods go by this so easy then by alll means spam the **** out of the forum....

If after all the threads and links people still invest then by all means take every isk they ave and make them rage quit over their loss...

I'm heading to bedBlink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Green's Bicycle Shop
#10 - 2012-11-04 23:20:38 UTC  |  Edited by: The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Aw, I thought we were going to turn this fire into an Inferno!
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#11 - 2012-11-04 23:21:55 UTC
Thank you for allowing me to use forum market in a matter of finding investors.
I hope this topic will stay open