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Please stop yelling TROLL. I'm just new.

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Vyvica
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-10-19 03:37:33 UTC
I really do appreciate all the kind people who has been responding. I've gotten some really mean emails that make me want to not play anymore, I guess it's because of my forum questions. I will be more careful. If I have angered any of you then..I'm sorry.

To everyone who has helped me with advice, answering my questions, etc..thank you so much. I will remember your help in my Eve experience.

I'm thinking of just not playing any more but I will give it a little more time. I see that some people would rather not see me in the game because me logging in slows down other players who can play this game right from getting a better experience and I'm making a lot of people upset from my forum post.

Again I apoligize and if you want to keep helping me that's really awesome of you. I will keep trying as hard as I can. But please don't send me any more hate mail. :(Ugh
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#22 - 2011-10-19 04:49:29 UTC
Did we forget to mention that the forums are a cesspool as well and that sticking your head up that high tends to result in it getting shot at?

Thick skin and good corp mates are the solution to most of EVE's ills.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#23 - 2011-10-19 10:47:31 UTC
Well sounds like you should find your elf a decent player run corp that can actually answer to your questions.

But as far as what a newbie should be flying is generally

- frigates less then 2 mils
-cruisers 2-5 mil sp
-battlecruisers 6 - 10 mil sp
-battleships 15 mil sp

Those are SP figures that I would let someone to bring a ship for small scale PvP (roams); assuming they have all skills in pew pew section and not in trade/science/industry.
For mission running 1/4th of that sp requirement is sufficient.
Not that it has ever stopped anyone from rushing to fail fit BS and subsequently wondering why they lost to a cruiser or even a frigate.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2011-10-19 14:32:10 UTC
If you're getting 'Hate' Evemails from various players, depending on the content of the mail messages, those players could get anything from a stern warning up to having their accounts banned. Best thing to do is just report it to CCP via in-game petition accessed through (F12) Eve Help.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Customer_Support
Also you can right-click on the character and select 'Block' which will stop all communication from them.


Evelopedia is the easiest and best source of information for you to access . It has a lot of guides filled with ton's of info.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Guides

Good luck and welcome to Eve.

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Keno Skir
#25 - 2011-10-19 16:51:20 UTC
Don't quit, just find the good people out there. I started the game with a few r/l friends who have subsiquently quit and left me in the grips of a serious addiction ;)

Since then i'v met loads of cool people, and that's not because i somehow snuck into the clique. It's because i like talking to people, and will talk at length to anyone willing to share a chat window with me :P

Talk to people and add the good ones to contacts, after a while you have a list of people to go to when you have a question. Also after plenty of little chats you usually find you've made a friend or two..

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FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2011-10-19 19:19:00 UTC
Don't quit, I think your avatar is cute.

On a serious note, please realize that the majority of the community consists of kind and helpful individuals. Unfortunately it's the haters and the non-constructive ones that are the loudest. Don't let them ruin your experience, and if they send you hate mails, they deserve to be blocked and/or reported. mail me in game if you want some help with fittings or anything, I'd love to help because helping new players is an investment in the future health of this game as a whole.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Velicitia
XS Tech
#27 - 2011-10-19 19:44:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
FeralShadow wrote:
Don't quit, I think your avatar is cute.

On a serious note, please realize that the majority of the community consists of kind and helpful individuals. Unfortunately it's the haters and the non-constructive ones that are the loudest. Don't let them ruin your experience, and if they send you hate mails, they deserve to be blocked and/or reported. mail me in game if you want some help with fittings or anything, I'd love to help because helping new players is an investment in the future health of this game as a whole.



yes... most of us will help you quickly get back to where you have your med clone via the pod-express Cool

OK, seriously though -- even when that happens, a lot of times the other pilot will be pretty cool and tell you what you did wrong or maybe throw some iskies your way or something provided you're an adult about what happened.


E.g. you're flying through Rancer (protip - don't do this til you get a handle on the game, and have a cloaky ship) and get ganked whilst trying to simply get from point A to B.

Right way to handle it (A) -- do/say nothing, watch your ship blow up, spam WTZ on some celestial to try and get the pod away safely, realise you've learned "find a quieter lowsec system to travel through"

Right way to handle it (B) -- engage the other guy, watch your ship blow up (but hey, maybe you gave him some hurt too Smile), spam WTZ on some celestial to try getting the pod away safely, tell the other guy "gf" in local, (maybe chat, learn a few things ... just don't stay stationary, because they'll be looking to kill your pod), realise you've learned a few things from the pilot in addition to "find a quieter lowsec system to travel through"

Wrong way to handle it -- engage (or not), watch your ship blow up, spam WTZ on some celestial to try getting the pod to safety, say stupid things ("you're gonna get it once I log my main on" ... "my [corp|alliance] is gonna crush you" ... etc), get laughed at and hunted.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2011-10-19 23:27:23 UTC
Vyvica wrote:
I really do appreciate all the kind people who has been responding. I've gotten some really mean emails that make me want to not play anymore, I guess it's because of my forum questions. I will be more careful. If I have angered any of you then..I'm sorry.

To everyone who has helped me with advice, answering my questions, etc..thank you so much. I will remember your help in my Eve experience.

I'm thinking of just not playing any more but I will give it a little more time. I see that some people would rather not see me in the game because me logging in slows down other players who can play this game right from getting a better experience and I'm making a lot of people upset from my forum post.

Again I apoligize and if you want to keep helping me that's really awesome of you. I will keep trying as hard as I can. But please don't send me any more hate mail. :(Ugh


EVE rewards you doing some research. Lurk in the Ships & Modules sub-forum here and Google for fits for the ships you fly, get EFT (EVE fitting tool) or Pyfa (Python Fitting Assistant). It sounds like, if you're not handling L1 missions very well, it may be because your fits aren't optimal - perhaps you're not understanding how your turrets work very well, or how to tank the ship you're flying properly given the skills you have. Often, when people are scornful if newbies asking questions, it's because many of the questions they're asking could be answered with a little initiative and research; but most people are happy to help someone get started on any topic.

The other thing I would say just as a general tip, a general first principle of EVE - always keep your clone up to date. Absolute number one rule of EVE. Losing sp is the most painful experience in EVE, far more painful and gut-wrenching than losing ships.

The second principle of EVE is never fly what you can't afford to lose - i.e. don't splash out on something really expensive that doesn't leave you any "cushion" in the bank. You will die in EVE, you will die probably many times, sometimes from NPCs but mostly from other players; and each time it's a learning experience.

Don't lose heart, there's room in EVE for all sorts of players and playstyles - you just have to be careful and think hard about what you're doing. That's part of the fun!

Also, if you're really having trouble but still want to play the game, give EVE Uni a try, they can take you through the basics and more advanced stuff in a systematic way.
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