EVE General Discussion

Game industry workers are a close knit bunch, xxxxxx and I had dinner two months ago and he/she said "Everyoen in this industry knows everyone else". I don't work in the industry, but I have gotten to know several that do over the years. And it seems nothing has changed since when I was more involved of the days of Ultima Online. Companies quickly earned reputation and their reputation spread quickly due to this tight knit industry.

Look at some other games in this industry, and you can see when they shift from the passionate focus into the managerial/business focus....things decline. It's not just that they made bad decisions, but they can no longer attract the really good talent because those people do not feel like they will have a secure employment after joining.

I personally know some people that were just let go, and they had one thing in common -- Passion. I don't care how much you know about a product -- if you lack passion, you will not have much to add to the improvement, promotion, and support of said product.

CCP is now tarnished with a reputation that if you are in the market for a job that they just cleared out, you are first to go. It doesn't matter if these positions open up sooner or later, those applying will know. And tThe people that will fill those jobs if they come back open will often not be the same caliber as the ones we lost. Worse is if these positions are gone for good, I'm seeing drastic cuts to what I consider important areas.

In summary, I honestly feel for the first time this is the confirmation that Eve Online is on a downward track - and it's one that not many actually will see right now, but down the road will be able to look back and think "you know, it all started then"

No fault lays with the customers for this it's a problem that has been festering for years. I find it rather repugnant that some valuable people who are part of this community are getting the axe when the blame lies with the upper echelon of CCP. The people that truly need to go are the individuals who are responsible for bringing in so called market experts and professional shills and hacks who thought they could bring their master crafted bullshit and corporatist new speak here of all places.

The fault lies with those who envisioned reinventing the wheel as a prudent choice for development which has led to stagnation and failure on all fronts for CCP when they could have just licensed the unreal engine and had WIS, and WOD released and highly functional by now and could have done a PC based dust on the same premise that would have had true integration with EVE.

This is what happens when greed is good and innovation and efficiency are allowed to be poisoned by hubris. If CCP can make these sacrifices now and be forthcoming it's time for the CSM to go as well. It has never been more evident that the individuals are not representative of this community and it's needs and are simply a mouthpiece and element of distraction and a bad PR tool all around.

If you want to cut the fat and bullshit cut them too and keep talking openly with the community. Good people have lost their jobs because arrogance, greed, and disinformation have been your mantra for far too long CCP it's your time to make it right or face driving your company fully into the ground.

a decent CEO would leave by himself, before everyone else, after such a failure. Guess what...

Last thing CCP needs right now is for the CEO to step down. If he does, CCP stock will plummet, and the company will die. Regardless if Jesus Christ himself fills the position of new CEO.

I would venture a guess quite a few people if not all of them took sizeable paycuts.

Some of the replies here are just silly


So some people in PR loose their jobs and suddenly you think everyone under the ceo is expendable? The best PR is a good game, a good game is made by programmers and artists. Don't get me wrong, PR is important, but don't inflate their role just because you hear from them more often than others.


Funny, I was there shooting the statue in jita for a day and a half with the rest because I was pissed off about all the problems in Eve that were being ignored and the introduction of half finished, stupid features nobody cared about.

So CCP finally starts to come to terms with the fact they were spending too many resources on projects that were not going to give a return any time soon. That they were probably over staffed and misdirected at projects other than Eve, their core business. So yes I am quite happy with this announcement, it shows that they are taking this seriously, provided that out of this comes real results, then I'm happy.

The anger and sadness I feel right now is overwhelming. There isnt a sub-section for the last year that has been screaming about the 100's of things that dont work properly or entirely broken (Faction Warfare) and now due to the failures of upper management people are losing there jobs. The player base has been given the shaft and now employees who have NOTHING to do with the mistakes are getting the brunt end of incompitence. To say CCP is not in trouble is disinginuis(sp) and miseading. "Butterfly Effect" is right CCP. Youve managed to neglect 100k plus subscribers and pit peoples livleyhood and families in peril not because of unforseen events BUT OF YOUR OWN DOING!!

Because in spite of all this, they need to diversify, or the company will not last.

WoD is an IP they have at hand and that hey have already put some work into. It's just that it will not crate any near-future income, so it gets to sit on the bench until they can make that happen. In the mean-time, Dust has a change of creating an influx of cash (even if it doesn't go so far as to generate profit) that lets them keep moving forward.

If they can't release WoD at some point in the future, they're screwed. At the same time, they can't release it now, because then they're screwed too.

..... right, more or less that's what they did, it turns out that "canceling/delaying" world of darkness means laying people off, who would have thought? lol

Listen, some tech for WoD is applicable to EvE, so you keep devs working on that common tech, perhaps some artists are valuable assets so you re-purpose those for awhile. You let go redundant people, and repurpose others. Focus on getting Dust out the door to increase revenue and focus on making the Eve community happy and continuing to grow.

CCP is not Bliz, they likely over leveraged themselves with these two other projects and need to refocus things to actually get stuff done.

Thinking more on it, there is one big difference here. They have a direction that we collectively think is good (the updates from past two weeks).