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Open Season : Goonswarm Wants YOU! — To Kill All Miners

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#161 - 2011-10-19 17:40:06 UTC
Moved from Crime and Punishment.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#162 - 2011-10-19 18:36:24 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Moved from Crime and Punishment.


How dare you.
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#163 - 2011-10-19 18:48:10 UTC
First you ban the Sky Captain of my heart from posting on the forums, then you try to tell us who can and cannot hold roles in our corporation? This is censorship on a level unseen since Nazi Germany in World War II.

What gives you the right to remove the members of Goonswarm from the contact list?
Explain to me why an employee of CCP hf. gets to dictate who can be listed as a contact for alliance affairs.
Tell me why if not for censorship this thread was moved from the widely read forum for piracy to a less significantly read forum.

Free my Sky Captain and stop nosing in on our alliance's affairs because this reeks of discrimination against us
Holander Switzerland
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#164 - 2011-10-19 18:54:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Holander Switzerland
These people have roles in our corporation and in our alliance and you are directly interfering with their ability to carry out those roles. You are censoring us and you are effectively mandating who can and cannot hold a role in a player corporation or alliance. If that is the stance that you wish to take then please have some other employees of CCP hf. inform our CSM chair and alliance leader, as I am sure he will be interested in reorganizing the alliance to fit whatever requirements have been determined for a player's ability to run a program or have roles.

You also seem to have missed this post, #28 in THIS thread, by Venus Vermillion:

Quote:
Confirming that I am your official Brapelille Goon Representative! 

Ask around in the system, you'll find that I do indeed pay out to those non-goons who make ice miners one with the terrible cold of space. Thus far I've paid out for Khalia Netsune, Amro One, and Thomas Abernathy. Feel free to ask them about the money they received.

The system is easy: If I'm online, I'm cloaked somewhere near by the ice field and will see the kill and the isk will be transfered immediately. If I'm not online, send me a confirmed killmail posting and I'll send the money as soon as I log on.
Hesperus Vanderbeets
The Greater Goon
#165 - 2011-10-19 19:02:00 UTC
I cannot believe that the honour of our beloved sky captain Lyris Nairn is being questioned in this thread, first by the general public and then by an employee of CCP, hf. I can understand the general contempt from clueless members of the public that assume this program is some sort of scam or whatever, but why is there so much hatred from CCP Phantom directed towards Lyris? First a ban, and now blatant censorship that amounts to directly interfering in the course of the game.

I signed up to play this game because of the videos that claimed this is a sandbox where you can do pretty much anything, and where players are free to form groups and do things together. Is that not true? Is how I play this game actually going to dictated to me by a disgruntled forum moderator with a chip on his shoulder? If so, then you can kiss my accounts goodbye and those of my sponsors, too. Sure there will be people that respond to this with "good riddance," but I doubt CCP wants to lose even more customers to bad public relations.

Tell me this is some sort of freak occurrance.
Free Lyris Nairn and put this thread back how it was.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#166 - 2011-10-19 19:19:55 UTC
kiki mo wrote:
. Better than buying a monocle or sitting on a couch, watching ponies, at least.

BLASPHEMY!!!!

NOTHING is better than sitting on a couch watching ponies. I dedicate several hours each day to sitting on my space couch watching ponies, thank you very much.

Also, Free Lyris!

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Valhallas
New Eden Robotics
#167 - 2011-10-19 21:33:31 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Moved from Crime and Punishment.


8.5/10


Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#168 - 2011-10-21 02:04:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Karadion
This needs to be restored back to Crime & Punishment. Are we actually meeting in real-life to coordinate ganking high-sec miners? That's absurd.
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#169 - 2011-10-24 06:36:00 UTC
While I admit that I am undereducated in the dynamics of ice mining I want to see if you follow my basic suppositions here. Obviously getting some HiSec pew-pew harshing for the rank and file, and having their name ring out, are considerable objectives for the Goons. Or at least for the rank-and-file. But if you look at their organization as a whole ( say how they maintain their null-sec) it seems pretty obvious that Goon leadership puts forth a bit more thought and has clearer understanding of the game. So I am puzzling at the less obvious economic outcomes.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#170 - 2011-10-24 07:07:44 UTC
JitaJane wrote:
While I admit that I am undereducated in the dynamics of ice mining I want to see if you follow my basic suppositions here. Obviously getting some HiSec pew-pew harshing for the rank and file, and having their name ring out, are considerable objectives for the Goons. Or at least for the rank-and-file. But if you look at their organization as a whole ( say how they maintain their null-sec) it seems pretty obvious that Goon leadership puts forth a bit more thought and has clearer understanding of the game. So I am puzzling at the less obvious economic outcomes.

Its gonna hurt goons current enemies, and make some money, without impacting the CFC all that much. It also gives the rank and file something to do to blow off steam when they take a break from their current deployment.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Liddia Thole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#171 - 2011-11-08 17:33:12 UTC
So anyone out there pay the ISK to get on the whitelist? Had a nice little talk with a ganker after getting contacted by the goons to get on the whitelist, trying to decide if its legit or not. Of course its Goon, but....
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#172 - 2011-11-08 17:47:45 UTC
Liddia Thole wrote:
So anyone out there pay the ISK to get on the whitelist? Had a nice little talk with a ganker after getting contacted by the goons to get on the whitelist, trying to decide if its legit or not. Of course its Goon, but....

I've seen em say that it worked elsewhere on the forums(or maybe it was this thread... so lazy)

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#173 - 2011-11-08 19:28:41 UTC
Liddia Thole wrote:
So anyone out there pay the ISK to get on the whitelist? Had a nice little talk with a ganker after getting contacted by the goons to get on the whitelist, trying to decide if its legit or not. Of course its Goon, but....

Not that you will feel inclined to believe me (being as how I am one of those evil goonies), but in the interest of toeing the party line rhetoric here I will go ahead and pipe up to inform you that we do, in fact, respect the white list. The problem with this and the reason why you may or may not have heard contrary reports is that there are some specified people to whom you can speak in order to arrange the white list—myself or Venus Vermillion, and certain others we internally designate—but there are thousands more random goons whom all have Internet connections and can see this forum thread. Since we have no policy in place to punish enterprising young goons who get it in their heads to steal your money from you, nor the intention of ever devising such a policy, there exists the possibility that the specific goon with whom you discuss about this topic may not be a genuine handler of this operation. There is also no rule in place to compel even those who are genuinely associated with this project to actually go through with the terms laid out in the OP or with the protection racket: this is entirely a voluntary thing that myself and a few other goons have decided to put together for our personal amusement, and you are depending entirely on a combination of factors which you may not be able to determine ahead of time.

I suppose that probably didn't allay your concerns, eh?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Liddia Thole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#174 - 2011-11-10 19:16:29 UTC
Well so far its a scam. Figured it was. All hail goonswarm.